Fr. Barron comments on Biblical Family Values

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[wordonfirevideo]

@Water4Jeremiah We have a whole bevy of arguments for the existence of God. Take a look at my videos on this and on Christopher Hitchens.

[nymphrenic]

Your interpretation of the Abraham and Isaac story was really profound.

[BartBVanBockstaele]

@BartBVanBockstaele ... a Master for whose existence you don't even have the beginning of a shred of evidence.

[BartBVanBockstaele]

@BartBVanBockstaele And yes, I agree the children *belong* to the god of the Bible. So do adults. My hamster *belongs* to me. I can give her a few sunflower seeds, or a few mealworms, even a chicken. She will love it.

And when she has been fatted or ceases to amuse me, I can slaughter her and throw her away, give her to the cats, or marinate her in Trappist beer and eat her.

This is what "belonging to God" means. You are nothing. Just a piece of vermin for your Master's amusement.

[BartBVanBockstaele]

@wordonfirevideo "Arguments" is not what you need. Since they are based on an anthology of myths and tales, they are meaningless. What you need is evidence.

[5355vbxjbj76rvn]

Very good exposition of Gen.22 - *but*, the ethical question remains: is a God who demands what (most people would think) is immoral, a God to be heeded ? And if a mother says "God told me to kill my children" - why is that plea not acceptable in a court of law ? Should not Abraham have dismissed the command as evil ? The argument from God's dominion over all creatures is impressive, but has too many holes: it ignores whether a command is good. & righteous.

[LVCIVSTVLLIVSATELLVS]

@MrCamus1960 The way to tell this is to look at the historical records, which is lacking in the field. The Bible is the most historical accurate document of the prophets' times. While the prophets may not have been people, they could have been schools of thought, or a literary devise. Nevertheless they are key to understanding Israel's history. I would say that Isa, Jer, Eze, Hos, Joe, Amo, Oba, Mic, Nah, Hab, Zeph, Hag, Zec, & Mal were real; Isa, Jer, Zec had schools; and Jon was a lit. device

[MrCamus1960]

Father Barron, were all the prophets real historical people?

[Mystagogia87]

@Water4Jeremiah I think you have to expend a great amount of mental energy to avoid the conclusion that there's something wrong with human beings.

[missbellestar]

@Water4Jeremiah : Some people spend their earthly life hating God. Or blaming God, or spending all their breath to disprove the existence of God. Instead... why not direct your question to God Himself if you cannot believe even the proven History, and all His representative. Just blurt it our "GOD IF YOU ARE REAL HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND" search, study, dig deeper or else if you die next month without knowing God, your regret laterwill not be of used. I am praying for the proof you are looking for.

[MQ1611]

The Lord would only called Mary "woman" and he rebuked her lie that Joseph was his father (Luke 2:48). That along with Luke 11:28 should give the Mariolaters pause.

God substituted himself for Isaac, as stated in the Authorized Version: "And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together." Genesis 22:8.

So the "test" wasn't an empty one, it was real, but by substitution.