Wudangshan TV - Wudang Sword 武当太乙玄门剑陈师行道长专访

wudang kungfu master Chen Shixing http://www.daoistkungfu.com/

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[peter073927353]

讚嘆師行道長的功夫與修道 真是一代明師 如果有機緣  希望也能來台灣傳授武當功夫

[exploreryen]

move like flowing water

[FRANK22131]

@peter073927353 台湾先回归，我们在去吧！或者把台湾的民主拿到大陆我们也很高兴­啊！

[83wisefool]

@elgostine Look, I will be happy to for you to prove me otherwise, if you have manuals that you can share, we are happy to practice it and see if it work in a combat situation, or better still, if you are in Singapore, we are happy for you to join us and show us. But as far as our experience show, rapier and jian perform similarly well, but they don't stand much chance against a spear or a two-handed weapon.

[83wisefool]

@elgostine This 500 characters limit is crap!

Anyway, when we do manage to thrust, we were often not close enough to extensive damage because we were guarding against a double kill. My friend is a fencing champion and my other friends and I had also spent some time practicing various martial arts, so we don't think its because we can't use the weapons effectively. We are also unable to find history materials that indicate that a lot of people died as a result of these weapons.

[83wisefool]

@elgostine My friends and I duplicated weapons for sparring purposes. So we made rapiers and Jian with similar weight and shape of those specified in the books and pad them up with foam. So when we sparred with rapier and jian, we found that its actually rather difficult to effectively execute a thrust to the face. Hands and legs are easier target and if its to the face, a slash after a parry is more likely to hit than a thrust.

[83wisefool]

@elgostine Nopez. The Jian was no longer used in the battlefield since the Tang Dynasty. Even when they were used on the battlefield, the Jian then was very different from the common jian that we see today. The Tang Jian looked similar to a katana while those before that were a lot heavier and bigger.

You are right in that Dao is a cavalry weapon and is often a secondary one, the primary weapon is the spear. Infantry as far as we know are commonly equipped with spear and not Jian.

[elgostine]

@83wisefool and the rapier excelled at perforating people which can be sometimes worse than being cut up,

and you can easily pierce someone in the face, throat, heart, or other vitals.

to speak of it as being less useful on the battlefield is pointless since it was never meant to be used in that context, it was meant to suit the tight and crowded streets of the italian city states

[elgostine]

@83wisefool the rapier is, the jian was used on the battlefield,, not all that often but it was since it was replaced by the dao mostly, since it worked better for cavalry.

the jians european counterpart is the late medieval cut and thrust sword.

dont let this sword he has, fool you, the proper, more rigid jian are every bit as nasty as european arming swords. and were designed to perforn the same purpose,

and dao ar even worse against armour, you cant slice metal plates

[83wisefool]

@elgostine Also, when I say serving similar social function, it is not to say that they were carried to show their social status. I was referring to dueling and self-defence. In the old days, dueling is a tool for "gentlemen" to sort out their differences. Jian and rapier are almost the standard weapon of choice in such duels.

[83wisefool]

@elgostine When I say the Jian and the rapier being not very deadly, I'm comparing them to their contemporary cold weapons used on the battle field. The fact that you mention that they are designed for unarmoured fighting is already a testimony to their relative lack of lethality when compared to other contemporary weapons. These weapons will cause injuries, but it will take a lot of training and determination to kill an armed opponent with them.

[elgostine]

@83wisefool you kidding? the jian is a vicious little thing, and the rapier is a nasty weapon too, both designed to be a weapon for back alley , unarmoured fighting

the jian is more than capable of chopping limbs the rapier a viciously fast thruster, and even small thrusts can pierce vital organs, and thus become very difficult to heal.

the smallsword was really the social item