Why do people laugh at creationists? Part 29 (Made by ThunderF00t)

Why do people laugh at creationists (WDPLAC) is a series of videos exposing the funny stupidity of creationists and why they deserve to be laughed at. Typically creationist statements are shown to be outrageously stupid by even the most rudimentary knowledge of science.

In this episode the origin of morality is addressed, particularly with respect to arguments of the big time Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias. Zach is notably called out on his dishonest techniques.
These notably include the favorite of the creationist, the conversation with the Ivy League professor. Zach, just like the convicted frauster Hovind loves using this device.

-Naturally the honest approach would simply be to present ones argument.

However if your argument is shite, then this approach will likely be ineffective.

People like Zach make the play on the argument from authority. It is therefore essential to establish himself as an authority figure. This is why in the full interview Zach spends minutes building up the picture of how all these university students were keen to see him, and how electric the atmosphere was etc. Basically the only purpose of the story is to suggest to the audience that the man is an authority and his argument therefore probably has credibility- its basically a diversion to prevent harsh examination of his argument. Given the audience response the technique is clearly quite effective.

Zach is again called on his use of diversion when delivering his proof (basically listing points of agreement, saying god did it, then re-listing off the points of agreement). On close inspection it turns out that his entire argument is basically there are morals, so god must have made them.

This is of course a hopeless argument from ignorance, and EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE, its a immoral proposition that a divine being allows evil as a contrast agent.

It is then described how societies cannot exist without some form of morals (basically behavior towards other members of the society).
It doesnt take a very long look at nature to see these behaviors in other animals, or why such behaviors are naturally selected for.

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[Kadiezi]

00:02

Piranhas as scissors? Forgetting the bigger argument for a moment, that. Is. Awesome.

[julianPGriches]

@AtheistExplains That is making some generalizations there, as well as some propositions that may not be true, and relating certain groups of people to the whole movement of Christendom, which implies that because part of it went bad the whole thing went bad, which is not necessarily true by consequence. That ancient book is also the most accurate and powerful book the world has ever seen. You would have to know quite a lot about this ancient book in order for me to take you seriously.

[vyperr3]

...?what? You lie a lot about Ravi Z. He doesn't claim he's might among apologetics...or manipulate the audience by saying Harvard and such you can watch videos or look at his schedule :-/ then you show videos of fanatic Christians. It's this kinda thing that shows who you are inside. Thought people had gotten past sheer ignorance and trying to portray those with different beliefs as crazy. Feel sorry for people who have so much hatred for others.

[melglen1]

@AtheistExplains spot on mate i agree with everything you say

[AtheistExplains]

@catalysthiphop

Because Children are being brainwashed into the Christian lie, because there is a preacher who wants to make a list of all atheist so that they can be boycotted and ostracized, because politicians are making decisions based upon an ancient book instead expert scientific advice, because Christians keep injecting themselves into our lives by protesting random harmless events (IE: Dancing), because Christians are full of hate and bigotry and it shows.

[laurayu70]

@catalysthiphop Why? Christians need to beliee in some old book. Atheism, you just think that a diety doesnt exist. Simple as that,

And why do atheists try to prove that a diety doesn't exist? Because some people try so hard (and sometimes it works) to embed Christianity into our lies, via politics, laws, ect.

But really, you got to ask an actual atheist. I'm just an agnostic.

[catalysthiphop]

Why do atheists try so hard to prove God doesn't exist? If you really believed that there was no God, you just would not care! I think it takes more faith to be an atheist than a Christian.

[blacksheepgirl]

@umbukta Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

[umbukta]

@Motleyclimber so what? what darwin did or did not do makes no difference to what's really true. maybe one day i will get scared and pray to god. maybe that's a natural human reaction. so what? it changes NOTHING, u fool. get educated. realise that there is no reason to believe in trolls, gods, goblins or unicorns. u r a fool to live in todays technologically advanced society and still believe in myths based on ZERO evidence and ZERO logic. stupid stupid religious ppl.

[umbukta]

@blacksheepgirl faith = stupidity and ignorance, and yes u certainly have a lot of that.