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Controversial Group ReExamines 9/11 In Clovis
By Clint Olivier
FRESNO - More than a hundred people filled the Clovis Veterans Memorial Building to hear a call for an investigation into what happened to the buildings destroyed in the attacks of September 11th.
"We realize that this is very difficult information to take in," Architect Richard Gage said.
Gage spoke and presented evidence on why his group, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth wants the U.S. Congress to look into how and why the Twin Towers and another building, known as WTC-7, fell.
Some video was provided to KMPH News by the group, which claims a membership of more than 600 architects and engineers.
"We're not conspiracy theorists, we are technical building professionals looking at the forensic evidence, so we provide the evidence, and we ask for a new investigation, and let's let the chips fall where they may," Gage said.
Andrew Isolano is a retired New York City firefighter who watched the events of September 11th from the roof of his fire station in Brooklyn, before he was sent to ground zero.
"We're like 'oh man this is going to burn for days there was so much fire, and that's when we saw the second plane come in and hit the second tower," he said.
Isolano lives in Fresno now, but as an eyewitness, he's satisfied with the government's conclusion: the blame for the hijackings, building collapses and deaths lies with Al-Queda terrorists, and Gage and his group should not reopen old wounds.
"There's the families of three thousand people that now have to relive this because these people choose to come up with a theory, there's theories on everything, we still don't know who killed Kennedy," Isolano said.
The group Architects and Engineers for Truth is a non-profit organization.
Attendees were able to sign up to support the group's efforts with pledges of between 10 to 911 dollars a month.
@anewlow23 You are now comparing conventional explosives to nuclear devices? "atom" bombs destroy structures by force, not by "vaporizing" them. There is intense heat and energy. Nothing disappears. If you place to cutter charges on a beam to remove that support, the portion of the beam between the charges stays intact.
NIST stated clearly that the extensive damage to the south side of WTC7 played a critical role in the pending collapse. How else did the 100s of eyewitnesses see that
shooter686 1 week ago
@shooter686 If an atom bomb had hit the building it would vaporize along with a great deal of manhattan so your assertion is FLAT wrong there. Again you are contradicting NIST by saying that debris played a role in the collapse they said explicitly that it did not. "Explosives cut beams" they do and when they do what happens to the part of the beam that was connecting the piece of steel together it vaporizes.
anewlow23 2 weeks ago
@anewlow23 "So you are saying that it is impossible for explosives to vaporize things such as the floors of wtc7 in order to allow for freefall?"
Explosives do not "vaporize" anything, nor does fire. Explosives cut beams so that the support of the building is removed. This leaves plenty of the reaming building to cause resistance to the collapsing debris. If you remove the amount of the building that done by the collapse of the other WTC's you would easily have free fall speeds.
shooter686 2 weeks ago
@shooter686 By saying that debris played a role in the collapse you are contradicting NIST who has said the debris did not play a role in the collapse which actually makes sense because if say one corner of your house is gone your entire house does not collapse into saw dust. So you are saying that it is impossible for explosives to vaporize things such as the floors of wtc7 in order to allow for freefall? So under your theory the fire vaporized the beams to allow for freefall?
anewlow23 3 weeks ago
@anewlow23 Free fall points to structural collapse. Controlled demolitions (CD) do not create free fall speeds. Take any video and clock the collapse. By having it fall at free fall tells me it couldn't have been a CD.
WTC 7 fell due to a collective structural failure from an extensive amount of damage from the WTC collapse plus the hours of uncontrolled fires. Once the beams could no longer hold the static load, it collapsed.
shooter686 4 weeks ago
@shooter686 I said at freefall which is the rate of gravity not faster than gravity I think this point is the achilles heel of the official story in that an official government agency admitted to freefall and put it in writing in the wtc 7 final report that the only way you can counter the argument is to huuuh! (surprise) create a straw man argument that I said that it fell at faster than gravity which I did not say. So what was the method by which wtc 7 fell?
anewlow23 4 weeks ago
@anewlow23 "NIST has admitted that it fell at freefall acceleration this is impossible without the use of explosives"??
Explosives cause an object to fall faster than gravity? Which Newtonian law is this? Even if 10 floors disappeared into thin air, gravity would still only cause it to fall at free fall minus resistance.
Jowenko refused to be interviewed by a group of explosives and demolition experts. Why? Because he knew he was guessing after watching a video.
shooter686 4 weeks ago
@shooter686 Puleeze man NIST has admitted that it fell at freefall acceleration this is impossible without the use of explosives roughly 8 to 10 floors of the building would have to be vaporized in order for this to happen if you believe that objects can suddenly cease to exist. 911 was an inside job it has already been proven! PS Danny Jowenko demolished buildings for a living and he never backed down off his claim that building 7 was a controlled demo.
anewlow23 4 weeks ago
@anewlow23
Truther: What about WTC 7?
Common sense: What about it?
Truther: Um....I was just told to say that.
shooter686 4 weeks ago