Raw Milk

Raw milk is a risk not worth taking. The benefits just don't outweigh the costs. If it had some measurable health benefit that we couldn't obtain some other way, that would change my perspective. As it stands though, the only benefit is flavor and the liberty to do it. The cost is the risk of disease or death. I can't find a way to make those two balance out.

Followup video on Liberty and Social Good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QuduG4CCyc

Some resources:
"Got Milk? Make sure it's pasteurized"
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1370/is_5_38/ai_n6198587/

FDA Warning of outbreak in in March of this year:
http://www.newsinferno.com/food-poisoning/fda-warns-of-raw-milk-food-poisonin...

US News and World Report article:
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/articles/2009/03/20/raw-mi...

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Education

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• Raw
• milk
• fugu
• health
• risk
• epidemic
• coli
• FDA
• CDC
• c0nc0rdance

[angelcarnivore]

Also- I have to wonder- are you against the use of cow manure as a fertilizer?

[C0nc0rdance]

@angelcarnivore

Raw, unprocessed cow manure should not be used as fertilizer. It's sewage. Manure that has been composted is usually safe. Sometimes raw manure is used in hobby gardens, but no less than 120 days prior to harvest.

[803brando]

concordance i think you should have mentioned one of the serious complications from listeria monocytogenes, listeric meningitis. these science-denier-alt-med-hipster­s think of stomach pains and missing a day of work when thinking of 'food born illness'.

[C0nc0rdance]

@803brando

Good point... I was thinking only of hemolytic urinary syndrome, but Listeric meningitis can be transmitted by food or water. I'm not sure if there are any cases in the literature.

People forget how often kids, the elderly or pregnant moms are the ones being harmed by dangerous practices like this.

[RoScFan]

@C0nc0rdance so how come calfs are fine with it? difference in IS affinity?

[C0nc0rdance]

@RoScFan

That's a sharp question. Cows are ruminants, which means they have a very different set of microbiota in their gut. Antibodies are species specific, what constitutes passive immunization for a calf would represent a foreign protein antigen to you.

[MochizMuM]

@TheRtlillico Im guessing your of the same brainwashing as those who believe GMOs are bad.There's a lot of unregulated shit in other countries that can cause harm, which most countries dont document.Do you know why people died of eating the cantaloupe, the same reason this man was pointing out in this video, the risk of bacteria. The cantaloupe had ecoli, just like spinach and what not. I am not disagreeing that America's FDA and CDC is messed up, but look at the facts and bam: deal breaker.

[Kakarot21591]

Lol, as soon as I heard "There is a Japanese dish called fugue," I was like, "Oh GOD no! Not Detrototoxin AGAIN!" Having just finished studying it in my Biology class...

[NateFosterSR]

lol at no diploma latino men no following guidelines amigo

[NateFosterSR]

I Efffen Love Milk ! yum

[rkyeun]

@HighVoltage963

My point was an analogy. I didn't call raw milk poison, though this video does show it poses a significant health risk like poison does for little to no gain. I have no problem with someone poisoning themselves with tobacco either, but we know that secondhand smoke affects others who have not made the conscious decision to get lung cancer.

My point is a general guideline which undermines your slippery slope argument against various seafood and shellfish.

[kabloozie]

mmmm, more fecal flavored milk, please!

[kabloozie]

the people who die from eating fugu aren't trained to prepare it.

[HighVoltage963]

@rkyeun Tobacco is legal, your point is invalid. Also, raw milk isn't poison.

[rkyeun]

@HighVoltage963

If it were merely you making an informed decision about your body, I would have no problem. However the American public is collectively a single idiot, and that idiot not only makes uninformed decisions, but also makes them for children who don't have a power to refuse or an ability to be informed themselves.

So in short, choosing to poison yourself probably shouldn't be illegal. And selling poison to a parent to take home to feed to their kids probably should be.

[HighVoltage963]

I understand the health problems, but I think it's a bit bizzare that it's still illegal. A: It's my body, and if I want to put it in my body B: There are a lot of other things which are much worse than raw milk C: Certain fishes contain toxins, that the ONLY way around it is to buy from reputable sources. IE: Ciguatera from, Barracuda, grouper, and snapper. Shouldn't these be illegal as well then? Same with Amnesic, paralytic, and neurotoxic shellfish poisioning.

[JacobBe5]

@MichaelnChristine A 'strong-link', I suggest reading more of the studies, most authors don't jump to those conclusions. Most who say the evidence is there say it is weak at best. Are you asserting a causal link between dairy and autism?

The studies that do find that positive result on autism from diet by the way, tend to not have control groups, use subjective measures, and (putting it harshly) have pretty shoddy controls doi:10.1016/j.rasd.2009.10.008