Christopher Hitchens On William Lane Craig (Mirror: Birdieupon)

http://reasonablefaith.org - Christopher Hitchens did a pre-interview before he debated William Lane Craig. Apparently, Hitchens had rather kind words to say about Craig... contrary to unhinged atheists (like, you know, Richard Dawkins).

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[bigvolcano]

Dawkins is a scientist, Hitchens was not and thats why there is a major difference in the reasons to debate him.

[drcraigvideos]

@bigvolcano LOL! Okay, then I guess all the scientists who have debated Craig have WAY more guts than Dawkins. Happy?

[bigvolcano]

@drcraigvideos its not guts, its rigour, i have just seen the baloney from the mock Oxford debate. i think Dawkins should leave the debates to others who are essentially trained philosophers and theologians, especially because Craig is a theologian and an essentially is a greasy moving target. so in saying the thesis of the God Delusion is right, is in no way saying that Dawkins has mustered the entirety of the the most substantial points.- he must have done a reasonably good job- as we can see!

[drcraigvideos]

@bigvolcano If it's rigour then that should give Dawkins all the more reason to debate Craig. Craig is so rigorous he's been blowing atheists out of the water. Dawkins is so rigorous he... well, he dodges debates. That's more like rigor mortis! Why not just admit that Dawkins is an intellectual pansy? At least scientists and philosophers like Sam Harris and Daniel Dennett had the guts (or rigour) to debate Craig.

[drcraigvideos]

@trashbash2001 Don't get all soft on me now, Trashy. I might have to take you seriously, you know. Take it up with Dawkins. He says he'll debate anybody: watch?v=80qsbsuuZjc

[8bobthebuilder]

LOL i like the end bit.

[holdenc96]

@StuartbBlake Yes, I'm a Christian too, and though I stand on the complete opposite end of what Hitchens believed theologically, I cannot say that I don't respect his intellect and sense of humor. He made me laugh a lot. When I disagreed with Hitchens, I REALLY disagreed wit him, but when I agreed with him, I REALLY agreed with him. I've always made it a point seek out the friendship of such people.

[StuartbBlake]

As a Christian, I respected Hitchens so much. He was so honest. He was so funny.

I already miss him.

[Birdieupon]

@cormacbuzz

Since when was provoking bad? Provoking people to realize what a great guy Hitch was, and what a coward Dawkins is, simply kills two birds with one stone!

[cormacbuzz]

@Birdieupon If the video stopped at 0:56 then you may have a point. If the video maker actually wanted to honor Christopher Hitchens then they would have left any reference to Richard Dawkins out. It does nothing but provoke.

[Birdieupon]

@cormacbuzz

On the contrary, you are using Hitchens' death to DIMINISH his own words. Would he thank you for that? The fact is, Hitchens debated Craig and actually was capable of being respectful. This adds all the more reason to honour Hitchens life and respect his death. He was a better man than Dawkins, but Dawkins is still alive and still has time to shape up. Whether he actually will learn from Hitchens, however, is another matter.

[cormacbuzz]

Seems slightly sour to use Hitchens' death as a way of needling Dawkins. Dawkins has already made up his mind and has his own reason for not debating whatever they may be. This attempt to seize the intellectual high ground does quite the opposite!

[983215ljhlkadbspig6y]

Hitchens is deeper, more thorough and more articulated than Dawkins, in my opinion, and Hitchens was sort of embarassed by Craig in that famous two hour debate. Craig has developed a sound, unshakable argument in favour of God's existence, and he uses it all the time; it does get boring, but it is so perfect and so hard to refute that you can't blame him for always using it. My point is, there is no way Dawkins would ever have a chance against Craig; you will never see those two spar one-on-one.

[Electronite1337]

@drcraigvideos

It makes a big difference what the debate is about. If it is about metaphysics or philopsohy of course a philosopher has a huge edge compared to a scientist. It is totally different thing to argue about the existence or non-existence of god than evolution for instance. It is about the area of expertise.

[1NationUnderNothing]

@FaithfulWitness6 Atheism isn't hate, and my fellow atheists would do well to remember that. Dawkins doesn't need atheists to defend him, so we shouldn't propose to do so. He fucked up, that's that. I have great respect for civility met with civility, and vigor for anger met with anger, but all things in equal proportion to their necessity. Atheists getting angry because you don't like Dawkins is just like Christians getting mad at me for not liking Joel Osteen. It's pointless.