Maton EBG808 'Artist' with APmic Pickup Sytem

This is a quick vid showing off the APmic pickup system in the Australian made 'Maton EBG808 Artist'.

There's also a tube condensor mic that mixes in with the pickup to show how well they complement each other for studio recording. The pickup is panned slightly to the left and the room mic is panned slightly to the right.

Video was taken with a small camera because my video camera has died.

Minimal eq and compression (because mic's aren't ears) but I could have done a lot more to the pickup sound...but what you hear is how I would mix the pickup in with a room mic. I think I may have had the bass rolled down on the guitar which is why it sounds so low in volume by itself...d'oh

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• Maton
• EBG808
• 808
• Artist
• APmic
• AP5
• AP4
• acoustic
• guitar
• tim
• dutton
• Australia

[TheDudeFrom0Z]

hey man me again lol, i want to install a Ap4 pickup system to my m225? know where professionals can do it?

[Timerrin]

@TheDudeFrom0Z it depends on where you are...I guess check the Maton website...also, the new LR Baggs systems are really good

[Adnamira]

Internal mic sounds good. I thought Cole Clark might have the edge on Maton, with the faceblend thingy, but that internal mic sounds nice and crisp on that maton.

[Timerrin]

@Adnamira yeah, it's pretty nice. i didn't make it loud enough in the video though...oops

[TheDudeFrom0Z]

sounds amazing. i have a maton m225. what strings are you using?

[Timerrin]

@TheDudeFrom0Z Hey, I think it's the nano Elixers 12-52? It's a great little guitar. Thinking of selling it though because I just bought a new acoustic - can't afford to keep both...dang

[baird55aus]

@Adnamira - yes it does sound crisp - it is supposed to. If you get a chance try a CC with a 3way pre-amp as it also has a mic.

[baird55aus]

@ncooperMusic - try a CC with a 3way rather than the 3.2 faceblend. It is quite superior.

[time4rockgap]

how much does it cost

[Adnamira]

@sthugh Ah, it seems the Taylors have a 1 3/4 nut width in their cedar top models, so I guess it is not that rare.

[Adnamira]

@sthugh Hmm, interesting. That might be my problem - I need to play a good spruce topped guitar. Gilet guitars sent me a photo of my 000 yesterday, and it looks awesome, so at least it will be fairly unique - it is suprising how hard it is to find a cedar top guitar with the 1&3/4" nut width, considering that cedar is considered a more fingerstyist tonewood.

[Adnamira]

@sthugh Hmm, I am not familiar with Taylors. In Australia, they seem pretty pricey, so I haven't researched them. You will have to forgive me. When I've played and listened to the Maton 808L, it had a nice sound, but seemed quite muddy when playing barre chords - that might be a cedar thing. Anyway, I emailed Maton, but didn't get a response, and ended up ordering a custom guitar from Gerard Gilet in Sydney - 000 WR cedar top, Indian rosewood b&s, Madagascan RW fretboard, PNG RW neck.

[sthugh]

@Adnamira BTW, I read an article by a luthier who said the reason lower priced cedar top guitars often sound better than spruce tops in the same range is because most spruce trees grow crooked and make for an inferior tone, so only wood from the best spruce trees ends up in the more costly guitars. That explained a lot for me. I have NEVER played an inferior sounding Taylor 814 or 914, but with the lower end models you have to shop around more even though the x14 tops are all spruce except KOA.

[sthugh]

You have to keep in mind that you can put two J45s next to each other that BOTH have rosewood back/sides and they can still sound quite a bit different. No two guitars sound exactly the same to begin, nor do they all age under the same conditions. I've played taylor 814s and 914s with rosewood back/sides that sounded almost identical to my own 314 with sapele (South American mahogany) and some others that were darker sounding. Same with 414s and 614s. Sometimes they sound hardly any different.

[Adnamira]

@sthugh I've heard that, and it makes sense, but I just watched a comparison between two Gibson J45 style guitars made in 1943, one had rosewood back and sides and the other had mahogany. Other than that, they were the same. There was a definite difference in sound between the two - the rosewood a bit smoother and the mahogany punchier, so the back wood of a guitar must have some effect.

[sthugh]

@Adnamira "if it sounds that good as a laminate, it would be amazing as a solid wood, you'd reckon."

Not much different at all really. The back and sides contribute almost nothing to a guitar's sound. They serve as an anchor for everything else and of course project the volume coming from that vibrating top. The thing with solid back and sides is that they'll hold up longer and won't peel apart over the years. Otherwise they have no real advantage.