The opening of the Ceremony of Remembrance on 1 April 2008 for the heroes and martyrs of the EOKA struggle for Cyprus independence from British colonial rule. Most were school children and students.
(EOKA = Ethniki Organosis Kyprion Agoniston = National Organisation of Cypriot Fighters)
@johnnywires3
I know I made you bored but I believe you wanted to know more about Turkey and maybe my political view, so I told them. It is quite complicated as you see. Good night.
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
If the armed conflict finishes nd turkey could perform as well as last decade in economis I think a natural balance can be etblished again.And islam actually i only real bound between turks and kurds so two societis can trust each other in this base. I'm hopeful, (if state leave us all alone) SK (lik High Counil of Elkections-a judge comitte -) banned 12 candidites (mostly pro - kurd) yesterday and south east (sooo rightfully) bacame a hell. Score against AKP , THIS IS TURKEEEEEY
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
We can't. For example they are not very poor people but distribition is not healthy. They are stubborn and think they are trying to be assimiliated so they become more strict about social bounds.And unfortunately during 90's to cut pkk's logisis and fleing from the conflict millions had to come western cities which they have stucked (not forced but de facto) ghettos, which made them angry and non society complied.
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
Maybe your friends are true leftists saying cyprus must be ceded but their idea about kurds made me suspicious. And kurds. Briefly there are 2 problms about kurds, political and social. And they are feeding eah other for quite a long time.
Politicalyy things are geting better , 90's were disastrious. Now they have a relatively freedom and I believe they'lll get more with the new constition. But socially they have strong tribal bounds and they should do something about that.
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
Kemalism (although I respect Mustafa Kemal) is a autocratic regime and all of u were educated under its principes. We may seem modern but actually we are only modern about laicism (not even secularism) briefly bing anti-religious. Saly turkish modernity do not care about democray mh. Kemalist policy about kurds and minorities (including greeks) are highly quetionable . And they never give up on cyprus, mark my word....
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
ANd like every country in our county too politic and public vote impose on govrnments. There is a coalition of nationalists-army-state beurocracy-jurisdiction beurocracy in turkey. AKP is not alone as europeans think. So at this point I should say this coalition of kemalists mostly do not think about cyprus as your friends say. Actually their cyprus policy is not different from their kurdish policy. (Remember your friends idea about kurds)
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
Quite normal for us to be close to them . Actually AKP is trying to revive an economic and cultural ottoman influence area on former east and balkan empire lands and they try to be a bridge from west to east and benefit from it. Kinda ghost ottomanim we can say but war is not an option this time. Cyprus is an expensive load for turkey in fact we don't want this island be a problem for us. Acually AKP tried to get rid of it by annan plan but it didn't work like they expected.
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
Actually we turks are muslims and europeans are christians and this makes us different , I think nnoone should expect us to behave what we are not actually, because every counry has a dna code. Turkey was ruled in a strict laiist model for decades , but it didn't change the attiude towards turkey from europe. In turkey islamic law is not imposed by the way , government didn't do it . About our neighbours; we have ancient boundsto them both religious and traditional.
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
And again european hypocrasy ; Please just listen to me and assume that you're irish. (Because it wil definitely be an attack to eu not greece or cyprus) . Dear eu who seemed like confirmed the annan plan as a solution than changed her mind without any explanation acording to her previous stance and dear uk the main reason of the cyprus problem since 50's. What do you want from us ? Or why did you pretend like you don't want what you ant now , before ?
vakasim 10 months ago
@johnnywires3
:)) , yeah nowadays we are veywhere like a superpower but I believe we did well about Libya. Actually EU did wrong by either accepting cyprus as a member or waiting for the 2004 poll to decide.You get what I mean ? EU behaved like they confirmed the Annan plan and signalled as turkey should vote for yes and after turkey's yes, they acted like poll was just a formality, it was really weird for us. I think Davutoglu wants EU to remember or explain what/why they did.
vakasim 10 months ago