Is Jesus YHWH? James White (DrOakley1689) answers Anthony Buzzard (AbrahamicMovement)

September 19, 2011 — James White (DrOakley1689) of Alpha and Omega Ministries answers Anthony Buzzard (AbrahamicMovement) of Restoration Fellowship on "The Dividing Line" broadcast Monday September 19, 2011.

Original video posted by AbrahamicMovement on September 19, 2011:

'Is Jesus YHWH or is Dr. James White wrong?!'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAAMBNhxZfQ

Hear the full podcast: http://www.aomin.org/podcasts/20110919.mp3

James R. White is the director of Alpha and Omega Ministries, a Christian apologetics organization based in Phoenix, Arizona. He is a professor, having taught Greek, Systematic Theology and various topics in the field of apologetics. White has authored or contributed to more than twenty books, including 'The King James Only Controversy', 'The Forgotten Trinity', 'The Potter's Freedom', and 'The God Who Justifies'. He has engaged in more than sixty moderated, public debates with leading proponents of Roman Catholicism, Islam, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormonism. He is an elder of the Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church, and has been married to his wife Kelli for more than twenty-four years. They have two children, Joshua and Summer.

Sir Anthony Buzzard was born in Surrey, England and educated at Oxford University and later at Bethany Theological Seminary. He holds master's degrees in theology and modern languages. Retiring after 24 years on the staff of Atlanta Bible College, Anthony continues to write, teach and travel, fulfilling a life-long desire to make the best of Bible scholarship available to the wider churchgoing public. He serves as co-editor of 'A Journal from the Radical Reformation'. Anthony is married with three daughters.

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[jcharri73]

Ok captain complicated all I said was read 1 john 5:7 simple. 99% of people that read your post have no clue what you are showing.

[HeroOfChristArchives]

@jcharri73 - My message was addressed to you, and to you alone.

You understood it. Whether others understand it is not my concern.

@jcharri73 said: "Read 1 John 5:7"

οτι τρεις εισιν οι μαρτυρουντες το πνευμα και το υδωρ και το αιμα και οι τρεις εις το εν εισιν

"(7) For there are three who are giving witness — (8) the spirit and the water and the blood — and these three are in the one." (1 John 5:7-8)

[jcharri73]

@HeroOfChristArchives There are many Latin mss of those that contain the Catholic Epistle of 1 John the vast majority contain 1 John5:7 Many of these dating back to at least as early as the 4th century.it can also be found in the Latin Vulgate; of which,Frederick Scrivener wrote, “it is found in the printed Latin Vulgate, and in perhaps forty-nine out of every fifty of its manuscripts”.So, the ms. evidence is far greater than what is portrayed.

[HeroOfChristArchives]

@jcharri73

The Comma Johanneum originated in the Western tradition and remained isolated within that textual grouping. Consequently, all Greek, Syriac, Coptic, Ethiopic, Georgian, Arabic and Slavic manuscripts antedating 1300 CE and containing 1 John 5:7-8 omit the spurious Comma. The Comma is also lacking in the texts of Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hippolytus, Origen, Faustinus, Hilary, Lucifer, Athanasius, Basil, Ambrose, Didymus, Epiphanius, Chrysostom, Jerome (Latin Vulgate author) and Augustine.

[jcharri73]

Correct in the word trinity is not in the bible. That said grab a King James Bible and read 1 John 5:7 and explain that there is three in heaven and those three are one. The others versions arnt as clear on that scripture because they were translated from alexandrian texts. JESUS IS THE WORD

[HeroOfChristArchives]

@jcharri73

Consider the textual evidence against the Comma's authenticity:

• ALL Greek MSS, save for eight late (post-1300) medieval minuscules

• ALL Syriac MSS cataloged to date which contain the text of 1 John 5

• ALL Coptic, Ethiopic, Georgian, Arabic and Slavic MSS of 1 John 5

• ALL pre-1300 Byzantine Majority MSS, including ALL lectionaries

• Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hippolytus, Origen, Faustinus, Hilary, Lucifer, Athanasius, Basil, Ambrose, Didymus, Epiphanius, Chrysostom, Jerome, Augustine

[Szygyify]

YHWH is "Who" The Father and "What" the 1 Divine Nature at the same time depending on which text is being read.

[Szygyify]

YHWH is the one being, the one nature, the one "What" shared by 3 co eternal co equal celestial non-human persons Father, Son, Holy Spirit. YHWH in the OT is also a singular personal "Who" "I" "me" "him". Jesus the Son the 2nd Hypostases, is YHWH the "What" in nature, who calls "YHWH" the "Who" the only true God. Perichoresis of the homoosion between the 3 co eternal co equal celestial persons is clearly taught in Scripture?

[TheChristcrucified]

Why is there a occult symbol? Where do you get yahweh? It is Jehovah. From the vowel points given by the Jews.

[Danielezerable]

@jcharri73 1 John 5:7 - (commentary: inserted by the Roman Catholic harlot and her daughters, used by the Roman Catholic harlot and her daughter harlots.) :p

[PrincessDivaization]

dear i think you should try and read the Quran maybe youll get a much better understanding of God and his prophets that jesus was one of them instead of reading a book that is also great but written by john peter mathew and luke ..dont make fun of the muslims and their book unless u learn arabic 1st and read the holly quran properly cuz i tell u english translation changes all its meanings..

[PrincessDivaization]

i want to ask you some questions if you dont mind

who wrote the bible?

if jesus was really God not a prophet how come some jews were stronger than him and were able to actually kill your God?

and if Jesus was really God how come did he say in the bible that you cant call me strong only God is strong

and are you really convinced that God that great would have a son .. and not prophets.. really?

and do you really really believe that God created humans to look like him...

[Taught77]

no

[Szygyify]

James White's logic for the Trinity goes like this, no kidding his own words! "The doctrine of the Trinity is not directly enunciated (in the Bible) I've written that it is"."In the Old Testament we find nothing more than allusions... it's a clear fact that no one using the Old Testament as their only source has come to a Trinitarian understanding of God". By looking at what is said, determines what is not being said because it's already understood" James White is a Calvinist nuff said!