Condor Bushcraft 4 inch - destructive heat treat evaluation (part 3/4)

This is a cheap knife that might be crap. Therefore the heat treatment of the knife is evaluated in these vids. If it turns out to be a tough knife i will buy a new

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[MrCookiemonster30]

The heat treat on that knife looks pretty good. Looks like a good knife considering the low cost. My complaint would be the blade cutting surface not extending more to the handle.

[lmglange]

@MrCookiemonster30

The heat treat is perfect: I have 4 or 5 condor knives

tough an sharp steel

the 2011 models have been updated with full grinds ! and a better more precise scandi grind

[flyfishscm]

Obviously not a condor fan? hahaha! I've got three condor knives including this one and haven't had an issue yet. Oh, course I'm not hammering it again'st a rock. Never saw you break the tip off, a lot remains to be seen here, BOY!

[lmglange]

@jeepzillajoe

THANK YOU !!!

I had read some where that the rockwell was about what you say - but I could not find it again ... and I just stayed quiet about it.

I do not post any views or facts if I do not have some kind of source or personal experience.

The Rockwell you tell me also confirms my experience with egde holding capabilities of the condors to be comparable to my other carbon steel knives (like moras and ESEE's)

[jeepzillajoe]

@lmglange

The Rockwell is 56-58 on all Condor knives, not machetes.

I have verified this myself, at the factory.

[lmglange]

@TheLajoieride

I agree with you... and as you can see in my other vids I do have blades made of 1095 steel with 57RC ... and other "hard" blades like the F1, Peltonen m07,

... I just like a bit tougher knives

... and as said the egde retension is better than the stats indicate in this condor bushcraft knife.

thanks for the discussion

[TheLajoieride]

Yeah, sorry for all the same comments. My computer wasn't showing them. Argue all you want, but my point is that Condor machetes are heat treated to Rc 53, just like this bushcraft knife. That is waaay too soft for any good small knife, especially one with that grind. You don't need a machete spring temper to have a tough knife. Also, 1075 does not have very good edge retention, especially that soft. Try something in 1095 or O1 around Rc 57-58. Plenty tough... unless you're chopping rocks...

[lmglange]

@TheLajoieride

- I do not try to observe flexing while batoning. I do a flex test for this in the next vid.

- This knife does not have a zero scandi grind. As I mention.

- The egde retension is as good as the Enzo Trapper's

Your other comments is already mentioned in my comments.

But... I prefer sligthly softer steels (eg Cold steel bushman) as they are tougher.

"A dull knife is better than a broken" - Noss

[TheLajoieride]

That's 52-55... sorry for all the posts guys. I didn't think they were going through...

[TheLajoieride]

The bushcraft knife happens to be Rc 53-55 plus it's 1075, which is a tough steel but it doesn't take or retain an edge well. Also, you can't evaluate rockwell hardness by observing flex during batoning.