Former Trinitarian Christians discuss why they REJECTED the doctrine of the Trinity!!

Is the Trinity biblical?

Does the Trinity make sense?

Is Jesus God?

What did Jesus Christ really say about Himself?

Did He ever claim to be God?

Does the Bible teach that Jesus is God?

Colin Gyles, Don Clayton and David Clayton are our guest on today's show the Religious Hardtalk. They will be discussing the matter of the trinity.

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[eagle123456789101112]

@hazelmay64 The word "trinity" or "triune" does NOT exist in the Bible. Jesus said, "My FATHER IS GREATER THAN I"(John 14:28). Jesus said,"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19).Jesus said,"Now this is eternal life: that they may know YOU,THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD,and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" (John 17:3). The doctrine of trinity was establised in 325 A.D. by pagans and whoever didn't accept it were persecuted. God is One. Islam is the truth.

[hazelmay64]

Those who reject the trinity are falling for an ancient lie that dates back thousands of years. They are deceived and blind. God is three in one as He claimed. He also sent His only begotten Son into the world to shed His holy blood to save us from our sins. I pray that the veil that is blinding your eyes to the truth of the gospel would be removed. Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven. No one can go there any other way. You don't have to die to get there. He already made a way for you.

[julio14335]

THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS PROBLEMATIC

[AbrahamicMovement]

Jesus is never called the Almighty, never called the "Lord God". Yes "God" refers to him in Heb. 1. But this is an anointed "God," who has a God. Why are you struggling against the unitarian creed of Jesus? There cannot be two who are YHVH. Why not start with the narratives of Matt and Luke? You are rushing to John and Paul without first understanding that the Son was procreated in Mary, by miracle. "For that reason precisely he will be called Son of God and for no other reason." Lk 1:35.

[AbrahamicMovement]

Your speaker is SO right to say that God would be deceptive if he does not mean "beget" when he says beget! The begetting of the Son is simply and clear in Luke 1:35 and Matt 1:20.

("begotten in her").You are still short on actual texts and heavy on post-biblical philosophy.

Go back to the creed of Jesus and Israel. It is wrong to say that God uses language which we cannot understand! That would not be revelation at all.

If anyone declares the Deity of Jesus he confesses more than one YHVH.

[AbrahamicMovement]

All you really need to emphasize is that Jesus affirmed the central creed of Israel. Should not Christians follow Jesus and his teachings? That setlles the issue. The creed of Jesus is that "the Lord our God is one Lord." That is quite clear. Jn 17:3 confirms this. The Father is the only one who is true God. That excludes anyone else. Christianity is the only world religion which begins by discarding its own founder's creed!

[AbrahamicMovement]

Marvelous. Please let me send you my two full books in agreement with you.

The creed of Jesus is "the Lord our God is one Lord" not two or three. Are we going to listen to Jesus and obey him? There is only one YHVH. To say Jesus is YHVH endorses two who are YHVH, ie two YHVHs. Help us return to the real Jesus who endorsed the unitarian creed of his heritage (Mk 12:29).  Anthony Buzzard MA (Oxon.) MA Th

[AbrahamicMovement]

@julio14335 present-day Orthodox Christians have been slowly shying away from the many Catholic councils and their creeds. Especially the Athanasian creed. Why? They are non-biblical. :P

[julio14335]

I HAVE NEVER HEARD CHRISTIANS TALKING ABOUT THE COUNCEL OF NICEA, MUSLIMS OFTEN TALK ABOUT IT WHY?

[h2dude69]

@Mee551able

I can agree with that to some extent :D. Because I'm not christian.