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Uploaded by on May 11, 2008

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/letter.html
Letter to Eric Phelps re: Monty Collier
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http://www.spirituallysmart.com/monty_collier.html
My Page on monty Collier
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http://www.spirituallysmart.com/Nelson_Turner.html
My Page on Nelson Turner (referred to as N.T.)
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http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/davehunt-calvinrefutation.html
DAVE HUNT'S POWERFUL REFUTATION OF CALVINISM
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God condemns "Debate" in the Word of God. And he forbids the continual arguing over Scripture.

If people like Monty and Nelson Turner want to disobey God and stir up debate and strife there's plenty of other people on the internet they could find who would take them up.

Their "debate" is a never ending thing that floods the internet. if they want to find my side of the debate regarding "free will" all they have to do is a google search and the internet is literally full of such debate.

Further more, they say I need to study Catholic councils and other things like that when the Bible tells us how to war against satan. The Bible is the complete book of instruction in all spiritual matters.

Additionally, these people together can not come close to the amount of info i have put forth and made available on my web site. Something the "Protestants" as a whole have completely left off doing. Instead they attack people like me. just shows what Calvinism is really all about. NOTHING.

Monty Collier and Nelson Turner are so pathetic that the actually attach my full name to many of their videos that have nothing to do with me. So they are without any shadow of a doubt helpers of the Vatican and the Jesuit Order being they are my number 1 attacker.

Another reason why they come after to me is because they're too scared to show their faces and go after the Jesuit Order like I am. They know I'm a Christian and am harmless. So they feel safe in going after me.

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  • "...I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to CONTEND earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints."Jude 3 "And take... the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God;"Eph6:17 All that is needed for error and evil to proliferate and triumph is for godly men to maintain silence and fatalistically sit back and wait for the Truth to defend itself.Paul reasoned in the market place daily and on Mars Hill. Can we do any less and be good soldiers of the cross?RLJ

  • Total mis application of the Scriptures. i have stated I reject his doctrines. therefore why should he be bothering with me? Paul spoke to people who were listening and were unsaved men. I am a born again Christian who was powerfully saved in 1997. Paul was telling people about the Messiah. i know the messiah. You are out of place. the Scriptures i quoted in this video stand by themselves. Argue with the scriptures then. you are not alone.

  • further more, Paul was reasoning with people who stood there and listened. Anyone who didnt want to listen walked out. Additionally Monty Collier and his friend are of NO comparison to the Apostle Paul. You err greatly.

  • mna... that joshua 24:15 hit me hard. man thanks for this vid.. the whole thing was awsome. thank you man.

  • Another hard hitting verse that I think is even more powerful is in Proverbs chapter 1 23-33 But highlighting the verse 29, "For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:" but it needs to be read in context to get the full understanding and power behind it. We truly must choose God. God enables us to do this and we pay the consequences for whatever decisions we make. the Lord says that over and over again through His Word. Truly that happened to me the day God found me.

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  • Amen..tlthe5th.

    you're absolutely spot on in all what you said.

    the Lord has revealed these matters to me precisely as you have described.

    God bless.

  • amen brother- your a sharp, well educated man in the word. glad i found your channel. you are 100% right by the way, all glory to God through His Spirit. Shalom

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  • AMEN BROTHER, ITS GOOD WORD, THE TRUTH WILL MAKE US FREE. THANK JESUS FOR HIS TRUTH'''''''

  • I agree that debating is bad and comes from the flesh. Jesus did not debate with the Pharisees He just stated the Truth and the Scriptures. We do need to state the Truth of the gospel to those who are in error and help only those unsaved who sincerely ask help to understand their error. The ultimate revelation shall come from the scriptures and the Holy Spirit.

  • @Blogrich55

    I believe that the contending mentioned in Jude is not the kind of thing that is the debating the Tithe5th refers to. If I understand correctly, it's as if these 2 guys are looking around to find a fight. That's the impression I got. The 2Cor12:20 reminds me of the situation in Dosdoyevski's Grand Inquisitor. Contending for the faith? I think that's contending for the difference between the truth and, say, Gnosticism/New Age/Mystery Religions/Catholicism. Helpful? :)

  • @da9el1 When I was unsaved, I didn't know about God's will in my life. When I believed on the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior and saved, I came to know that God's will is to use our free will to obey Him, and not the enemy's. From my experience, since the day I put my faith on Jesus Christ until now, there are times when I know I disobey Him. Guess what? It didn't feel right and I had no peace of mind. My friend, there is peace in your heart when you know you are in the right.

  • thanks brother...the Lord used this to speak to my heart. I needed to hear that stuff.

  • clicked on the link to vid for the lulz

  • proverbs

    025:008 Go not forth hastily to strive, lest thou know not what to do in the end thereof, when thy neighbour hath put thee to shame.

    025:009 Debate thy cause with thy neighbour himself; and discover not a secret to another:

    025:010 Lest he that heareth it put thee to shame, and thine infamy turn not away.

    025:011 A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.

  • Argueing??? I would say yes. I like the verse he quotes in Titus. If you just keep going at it with someone you will get no where. I've been there myself and have ruined friendships and relationships with debate over biblical things. The bottom line is we are here to edify one another once we find Christ as our saviour. Everyone just needs to get over doctrine an celebrate what YHWH has done for us.

  • Why would God give us free will if he only wants us to "obey" him?

  • So would argueing with atheist and evolutionist wrong? Does this only apply to argueing and debateing our brothers in Christ?

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