The War Conspiracy (2001)

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oh, see, but the difference is that Capitalism is awesome and Communism is inherently evil.

State Capitalism has carried out just as many atrocities as State Communism.

Capitalist Britain killed 17 million in India, Capitalist European's killed 3-5 million in the invasion of the Americas & around 18 million in the Atlantic Slave trade, King Leopold of Belgium used Capitalist Enterprises to help him plunder & kill 8 million in the Congo, Capitalist competition killed millions in wars, including 15 million in WWI, Capitalist U.S. slaughtered 6 million in Indochina, etc, etc.

There is nothing inherently evil about pure Communism per se, just as there is nothing inherently evil about pure Capitalism.

However, State Communism was an abomination, just like State Capitalism can be & has been.

The common denominator being the State. When you force a system on somebody, that's where evil arises.

My comment was sarcastic, btw

Actually, I think both systems are inherently "evil", because pure capitalism as we tend to see it (without a separation of business and state, let's say) does not take the needs of the less fortunate into account and gives so much power to the wealthy that they're above the law. And the problem with, let's say, total state Communism is that it does infringe on people's freedom (because people should be free to profit from a fair business)
Not that anyone asked.

Heh, fair enough about the sarcasm.

When I suggested 'pure' Capitalism or Communism, I was referring to anarcho systems, where no state coercion would be involved whatsoever.

As such, voluntary anarcho-communism isn't inherently evil & nor is voluntary anarcho-capitalism.

Though many arguments could be raised to say that the hierarchical structures within a Capitalist business are still exploitative, whether the workers volunteer or not.

ah, by pure I thought you meant the way people tend to talk about pure laissez-faire capitalism (which is far from the publicly-funded capitalism we have now, but still not the right way to go)
I totally agree with the exploitation comment, e.g., the bastards at British Airways asking their workers to work for free... it's still wrong even if they "agree" to be slaves.
I wonder if "pure" communism (by your definition) would be the opposite, capable of existing under consensus... but by what %?

hmmmm lets see hmmm Mao+Stalin=100 million and still counting!!! commie bastards

A more reliable estimate of Mao & Stalin's death tolls (quoting a median of the most reliable scholars estimates) would be about half of what you cite.

Stalin probably killed around 20 million, roughly the same as Capitalist Britain killed in India. Mao, probably around 30 million, that's about the same amount as Capitalist Britain & the U.S. have slaughtered since WWII or how many they & Imperialist Europeans killed in the N.Atlantic slave trade & original invasion of the Americas.

I think by barring his book from the shelves the CIA have made truth of his text. Bad move.