Spanish,English Armada 1588 and 1741
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@Butchuk2007 No he really did say that. :P
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@yearve080 Of course, there are several impresive British victories against Spain, like the Great Siege of Gibraltar, or Cape St Vincent. But the 1588 campaign, from a military point of view, was not at all defining. A natural disaster, yes, but by no means a decisive blow which shifted the balance of power.
And in the Peninsular War British money/soldiers helped, so did the Portuguese, but the guerrillas were simply Napoleon's nightmare.
Disease also played its role in 1741, I don't deny it.
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@yearve080 Contrary to what English historians have often said, it didn't mean the end of Spanish maritime supremacy (was lost not to the English but to the Dutch following the resounding defeat at the Battle of the Downs in 1639) or even the "high water mark" of Spanish power, which are the 1620s.
The 1589 Counter-armada failed, Drake was killed in 1596 and during the 1590s the Spanish fleets shipped more silver than ever. The Treaty of London in 1603 can be regarded as a Spanish victory.
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@yearve080 The difference between the 1588 and 1741 battles is that while the first one is very well known, the second is quite forgotten, even in Spain.
The English victory in 1588 consisted in preventing the Armada from loading the army in the Low Countries to cross the Channel and then land in southern England. The English sank or capture FIVE Spanish ships. Nothing else. The rest of them were sunk by horrific storms when returning to Spain, and current studies show that many more returned.
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@hispanicuscorpus Dilo en espanol, porque in Ingles no te aconsejo que sea voceros. Que rayos quiere decir???
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@hispanicuscorpus in 1741 british no attack spain usa attack no british
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@yearve080 You have reason, always the historians of every country sold the things since it was interested more, also it is true that in Spain always exist complex of the past and now the people want to recover, but the truth is that for Spain Trafalgar's defeat was much more harmful, that the "accident" of the "Armada". As the failure of the counter navy or " english navy " was not so important either. But good this is only a history, is not personal.
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Ja!!!!
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@aattitude thank for put some of common sense
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@MrLasmestas y que lo digas
¡GLORIA ETERNA AL HEROE BLAS DE LEZO, AZOTE DE LOS PERROS INGLESES!
MrLasmestas 6 months ago 28
@TheMunyiri Not all of Spain was ruled by Muslims.
You're wrong and stupid, that's the problem.
It isn't my "theory", check a haplogroup map of Spain.
I can repeat what I said earlier, no problem: haplogroups common in the Mid East and North Africa are not common in Spain.
Jews were always small minorities in all nations they went to, even to this day.
The subclade E1b1b1b is actually known as the "Berber gene", and it doesn't even make 6% of Spain as a whole. It's found elsewhere in Europe too
aattitude 8 months ago 17