Showing off two projects

1. 5/32" 20ga half-persian 4-1 sterling silver necklace w/ moonstone pendant

2. 15th century style doublet in green cotton velvet (will later have detachable sleeves, probably emboridery, etc)

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[ZarlanTheGreen]

1. Nice. I'd like to point out, that it's called mail (or maille), not chain mail. (I like medieval stuff, mainly swords and swordsmanship)

2. Is it a "civilian" one, or one meant to be worn under armour? (I'm guessing the former?) How much are you concentrating on/caring about historical accuracy, BTW?

[saizai]

Chain mail is the original name, and completely accurate. Mail or maille are just abbreviated versions.

I presume by (2) you mean the doublet. That is just a civilian one; not even close to the under-armor sort.

It's meant to be more-or-less historically accurate, mid 1500s period. Not 100% - e.g. I'm using cotton velveteen, not silk; machine stitching; etc.

[gmcjetpilot]

Chainmaile, doublets....how medieval! Dude you are an eclectic person with esoteric interst, all most a renaissance man if you will. Not my cup of tea but I like it, interesting. California has renaissance fairs in which that would go over big.

Merry Christman, Peace on Earth and good will towards all Mankind. What is wrong with that.

[saizai]

I actually don't go to ren faires. Not all that interested in it.

I just do this stuff for my own amusement. ;-)

[ZarlanTheGreen]

2. As far as I can tell, the terms gambeson, aketon, doublet and some others, aren't necessarily more then different words for the same thing (or at least, same category of clothing. Basicly being words, from different times for the same thing. But then again, armour isn't my forte, so I might be wrong).

I missed an option of a "war" doublet, for non-plate use.

Then again, at the time when the term doublet was used, maybe they didn't have those. I doubt it though.

Anyway, I hope it goes well.

[ZarlanTheGreen]

1. Used, since the 18th century, by people who didn't use it. You might argue, that chain mail, is what it's called nowadays, which I would still protest to, but that would still make his statement of it being the "original name", completely inaccurate.

[silvurhuntress]

1. As the term chainmail has been in use since the 18th century, I'm fairly certain Saizai is perfectly justified in using the term.

2. Wouldn't a garment designed to be worn under armor be called a gambison? As opposed to a doublet (dress jacket with sleeves) or a jerkin (sleeveless jacket/vest)?

[ZarlanTheGreen]

Just to clarify (so you don't need to google/wiki it):

HEMA/WMA = Historical European Martial Arts/Western Martial Arts

[ZarlanTheGreen]

"Chain mail is the original name, and completely accurate."

Oh? And what are your reasons for believing that?

(my reasons for seriously doubting it, are:

The works of Ewart Oakeshott, the fact that researcher Erik D. Schimd hasn't told people otherwise, and uses the term "Mail" himself and basicly the whole HEMA/WMA community)

The term chain mail was invented in the 18th century, as was ridiculous terms like "plate mail" or "scale mail"