Dave Holland Quintet

O trompetista Kenny Wheller em mais uma apresentação impecavel

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Music

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• dave
• holland
• kenny
• wheller
• jazz
• trumpet

[Justino111]

sorry dude, you don't know what you're talking about.

In the past, BEBOP was considered random music by people like you. If you cannot trace the melodic curves, the lines, the chromaticism, the gestures, the emotion, the energy, the intensity of Kenny Wheeler phrasing...that's YOUR problem. This music is NOT random.

[ceegee1]

Then you'd probably hate Jelly Roll Morton who did this kind of thing in the 1910s through the 30s.

[geoffreysmythe]

anybody see this band at sweet basil in nyc early 80's?



[tenortime51]

Things are only random when the artist doesn't have control of them. Good thing these guys have control is absolute in comparison to general proficiency :)

[LiberoMan]

I didn't know Russel Crowe was a jazz trumpet master! :D Well, Kenny kinda looks like him @1:35 :P

[Memberofdoom]

@Memberofdoom This is pretty damn free, though. Not totally, but it's out there.

[Memberofdoom]

The point I'm trying to make is, you can have well-planned music that's also improvisational to some degree (even a very high degree!), and you can have very improv-heavy music that's not totally random (only very rarely does it verge into complete randomness as a stylistic standard... free jazz). Randomness and planning are two sides of a polarity, and in any music they're both going to exist in some aspect.

[Memberofdoom]

The point you guys are all mussing is that there's alot of really composed, well-planned modern jazz out there. Look at Kurt Rosenwinkel's music... his compositions all have well-planned melodies, harmonies, and forms. The thing is, there's still room for musicians to stretch out and play with them. The really crazy stuff happens during solo sections... chord and times substitutions and the like, but it's not totally random either, it's got some direction.

[unclejunglebass]

good upright bass tone in the mid 80's???? amazing!

[Beaudereck]

@Justino111 and even if it were, lol, what problem would that cause ?

[patrickwise06]

this music is very complicated and very fast. iv noticed more musicians like this music than non musicians , because we understand whats going on. you have to get used to it by listening a lot is all.