The Obama Memos

An in-depth New Yorker piece on hundreds of pages of internal white House memos and President Obama is broken down by Ben Mankiewicz on The Young Turks.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/01/30/120130fa_fact_lizza

Subscribe to The Young Turks: http://bit.ly/eWuu5i

Find out how to watch The Young Turks on Current by clicking here: http://www.current.com/gettyt

The Largest Online New Show in the World.

Google+: http://www.gplus.to/TheYoungTurks

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tytnation

Twitter: http://twitter.com/theyoungturks

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• the obama memos
• white house memos
• obama memos
• obama white house
• bill kristol
• david brooks
• new yorker
• george will
• ryan lizza
• young turks

[bluesenshi]

I think it's a fantasy to suggest that ANY Democratic politician has moved to the left since 1975. All have moved to the right.

[waswestkan]

Obama created a bridge alright. The cartoon character with his hands on one side, and his feet on the other. With Republicans walking on his back to get where they wanted to go

[Juniversal]

I read the article. I think Ben is trying waaay to hard to seem impartial and needlessly critical of the President.

Over analyzing Obama's examples of disparate ideologues that control political discourse in this country (really finding objection with the term Religious zealots when they indeed have much influence??) and implying that Obama labeled gay activist "extremist"?

Gay activist are one of many logical spectral opposite of Religious zealots. Not impressed with this video Ben.

[TotalImplosion]

Obama is uneducated, meaning, he does not have the wherewithall to assess situations clearly and deeply. The notion that "compromise" at any cost, is a plausible strategy, to the point of being totally unprincipled, shows a man that has never learned the lessons that life teaches most of us. Whatever his credits may be, he misses the big point and becomes an embarrassment to the nation and a complete failure as president of the USA. The GOP are even worse, making this an extremely sad time.

[Tounushi]

@hugoegbert79

Just try and guess who played which part in that revolution.

[Tounushi]

@hugoegbert79

I've noticed there are three sorts of people who drive revolutions:

Thinkers who notice something is wrong and try and make solutions in either fixing the system or making a new one altogether;

Masses who are dissatisfied with the status quo;

Manipulators who can drive the masses to any cause (usually for their own gain).

In a revolution, thinkers give ideas to the manipulators and the masses off the establishment. Then the thinkers are removed by the manipulators.

[Tounushi]

@hugoegbert79

There's a nuanced difference in believing you have the best system (out of a selection of other systems) and having a perfect system without peer.

The masses do not think with nuances.

And those who can manipulate the masses can use and twist nuances to get the masses to attain themselves power.

We have seen this with numerous regimes religious and secular.

We can debate these issues because we understand they are nuanced. But in large scales it's black and white.

[hugoegbert79]

@Tounushi "If you believe that you follow a perfect doctrine, then those who go against it go against perfection."

You sound kind of paranoid. I think that socialism is the best system we could have, liberals think liberalism is the best system we could have, capitalists think capitalism is the best system we could have-so what? What's your point? People think that whatever system they espouse is the best one, but can agree to disagree on it. I'm not going to go out and kill people over it.

[hugoegbert79]

@Tounushi "Dictatorship of the working people embodied by the workers' party."

Yes, that's what happened in the USSR and so on, but it isn't what was intended by Marx-that's my point.

[iFreeThinker]

@uzumakiangelus I'm fairly sure "great faith" is a part of someone's content of their character is it not? If the content of someone's is their religious belief, and that belief is that all other humans deserve to suffer horribly for all eternity, then am I not justified in judging that person's "content of character" in that manner?

[okayplayer82]

@garrygolden

There is no center. Get your head around it. It's destroy or be destroyed.

[TheOnlySamSinno]

OBAMA WAKE UP FIGHT THE RIGHTS DON'T JOIN THEM!!!