Patriarchal Society via Socialization versus Personal Responsibility

Here is the video I am responding to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoL4kREBycs

This took ages coming. I had some technical problems.

No transcript as this was not from a script. But here are some reference articles:

Wage Gap Reflects Women's Priorities
Wendy McElroy
http://www.wendymcelroy.com/ifeminists/2004/0922.html

Women's Figures
http://www.aei.org/book/292

The Myth of Male Power
Warren Farrell
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Men-Earn-More-Startling/dp/0814472109/ref=sr_1_1?...


Some things that didn't make it due to time:
There are certain things that I don't accept as valid causes for "our side". College admissions for example if the entry rules are fair and are not being tampered with to allow one group over another then the free choices of men should stand. I don't accept affirmative action. Period.

On MRA's being victims. I have made what would appear to be whiny videos in the past. Two examples would be a complilation of anti-male adverts and a video about alentines day. I agree with the spirit of these videos but I would simply not make arguments like this today. Whatever people want to do they can do and I don't mind. I would not observe valentines day and I haven't watched TV in 3 years it's easy to not be annoyed by something when you take it into your own hands to avoid it.


Some smaller responses to some of spacemonkey2084's remarks:

~0:51 "conspiracy of males out to get people"

I accept your case that most feminists don't think it's a shadowy cabal. I don't automatically want to think the worst of people so if you believe that and you are sure that BoundlessEyes believes that then I will accept that. But people write a lot of conspiratorial sounding stuff and I wish that they'd get a grip on it, tone down the hyperbole and explain their ideas a little better than they frequently do.

~3:57 "I've witnesses a lot of sexism in my life, I don't know what world you live in if you haven't"

Sexism is a two way street. I don't understand how you guys breeze past the Harriet Harman thing. This is a woman who says that she is for putting women into these positions because they are women. That is discrimination based upon sex and thus it is sexism by the book. Never mind what the reasoning is, it is sexist and it is governmentally mandated. Feminism has won, people are terrified of slighting women and whatever slights they do undergo are insignificant compared to the state mandated actual oppression of men. This is the unassailable argument which cannot be addressed. You need to watch my video "men are more oppressed than women" which lays out this case.

~5:35 "feminists are not Nazis"

I want you to go to my videos and watch a video I made called "Why I don't agree with the term 'feminazi'" and then try to make the claim that I am calling feminist Nazis.

If there was an effect of human though that can lead to bad actions, then I think we should identify this so that we can avoid those bad actions again. If you see yourself as a victim of a group then actions against that group become more legitimate in your eyes, you lose any human relation to that group and they appear more demonic in your eyes this results in hatred and atrocity. These are basics of human evil an atrocity and we should be vigilant for their effects without being censored by pejoratives such as "Godwin's law" being constantly thrown at us.

Another human trait is hatred of those who do not disagree. You obviously think that I am some sort of hateful individual as indicated by the little reference to "perhaps you will equate me with a Nazi sympathiser". I am not a demon, I just happen to disagree with you.

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Any other smaller points then ask for clarification but for now, I would appreciate your thoughts on the larger matter at hand. Thanks.

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[byteXI]

Your camera is incredible! How do you get such sharp, high quality video on youtube!?

[ArgusEyes]

That's because it's a professional digital SLR camera that can also shoot video, that is why it looks so good. (lookup Canon EOS 5D mark 2).

[starcraftiskool]

i thought feminism was silly and useless before seeing your videos. now i realize that its still needed because assholes like you exist. thanks for showing me! :)

[ArgusEyes]

Feminism is totalitarian and does not tolerate thought crime. Thanks for the clarification starcraftiskool.

[blackman6270]

@pricelesspam Men dont feel oppressed because they have to face disciplinary actions. Men feel oppressed because women dont have to face the same disciplinary actions. For instance:

A man makes a prankcall to the police -> He gets a fine or a day in jail.

A woman falsely accuses a man of abuse or rape (without evidence)-> The man loses his job, gets locked up for some time and the woman walks free.

How is the injustice in this so hard to understand?

[wisdomtrek]

 Canon EOS 5D mark 2 = $2,400.00 .....ugh!

[chica476]

@hayria123

Sounds like you cannot argue without bringing something so meager, such as race, to come into play.

[victorsvoice]

@starcraftiskool Screw you.

[0oCIARAo]

Camera sharpness WIN!

[pricelesspam]

When civilization progresses the more uncivilzed man feels oppressed because he is not able or allowed to be the monster he tends to be without facing diciplinary actions.

[hayria123]

@GiantPotato I am talking about the slave mentality and other things that have psychologically scarred my people. I study this type of stuff, I see its effect on my people everyday. Most white people, if any dont know or understand this. Women being prohibited from working, owning land, and voting in order to keep up the family structure of society cant be compared to the Slavery and destruction of a whole race of people.

[GiantPotato]

It is a perfectly valid real world example to compare. NO black individual alive in a first world country today has had to deal with systematic slavery and attempting to play the victim due to slavery is both manipulative and dishonest.

A 22 year old woman is similarly not old enough to have even experienced systematic sexism. The feminist movement's original goal of equality to which it barely even pays lip service anymore had already more or less been met by the time that woman was born.

[hayria123]

Please dont compare what happened to black people and what supposedly happend to women. Trust me white man, you wouldnt understand. Stick to feminism and not race.

[Dobogio]

Are you planning to respond to his response to you lol?