Melting snow and ice. A call for action.

Former Vice President Al Gore and Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre presented their global report on melting snow and ice at a side event of the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen (COP 15) 14 December 2009.

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[fullthrottlealways]

"As you realize"...,What a pompous moron; history will not be kind to Al Gore, the charlatan snake oil salesman of NWO. The "Melting snow and Ice report"; what a laugh; the gig is up for Maurice Strong and all of the rest of the enviro-nazi global warming alarmists. I think God has a wonderful sense of humor in dealing with the false prophets of doom of the totalitarian left. It is jutst majestic poetic justice to see all of Western Europe blanketed in the biggest blizzard in 222 years.

[wboune]

I see a solar and wind powered LED lighting factory in my future, breaking the energy cost curve, to make localized domestic production globally competitive.

Later being bought out by the employees so they can control their own destinies.

Socially responsible capitalism may be the right evolution.

[wboune]

I invested in solar nearly thirty years ago, have enjoyed extremely low cost for all of those years, replacing and up-grading to, hopefully, reduce most carbon use by mid-decade, as energy prices begin to rise, I will pay little for all of my energy, including transportation.

I am totally convinced personal ownership of energy production is a safe and economically positve movement.

[MissingGWdotcom]

Over the past three years, oceans have totally stopped rising, as determined by satellite measurements and published by University of Colorado.

[MissingGWdotcom]

The fact is as the earth warms it puts more moisture into the air which falls as snow at the poles.

A warming earth creates more snow at the poles not flooding as it removes moisture sending it to the poles. Now will there be a little more melting 2 or 3 months of the year yes but oceans rising 20 feet? NO not even in 1000 years, Oceans rose 2 mm per year during the first half of the 20th century, and only 1.5 mm per year during the second half.

[MissingGWdotcom]

Dane that is right, The poles are not going to melt and flood the world even if the temp goes up 3 degrees C (like GISP shows happened 3300 years ago and it did not flood). The poles are so cold on average even a 10 degree C increase would never put the average above freezing, they forget it is not 20 degrees F during the winter on the poles it is in the -50 degree F range. Even in July the temp is between MINUS 10 C and +10 C

[MissingGWdotcom]

Rising prices always make sense just like all economic cycles, we need higher prices to encourage new technology to get oil out of the ground and find new fields, more effiecient engines, etc.

Then after time that prevoius investment pays off and we can enjoy lower prices for a period of time getting ready for the next cycle.

This is why we have always had recessions and come out of them stronger than before.

[MissingGWdotcom]

Sure I am all for conservation but that should fall on the individual, less I spend the less it cost, I save money that makes the most comman sense for me.

But if I have a business that has to move goods so my employees can feed their children I want the cheapest solution availible.

The market balances all these complex issues.

[MissingGWdotcom]

True, but so far historicaly they have been under estimating.

For example they told us in 1981 the oil ws running out and prices spiked, then low and behold new investment found new fields like the N Sea, Africa, etc, new technology popped up to get oil that is deeper and harder to get, and more use of existing oil fields.

But someday you are right, that investment will pay off by a greater amount in other technologies and oil use will drop maybe killing any new development for good.

[wboune]

What about the claims that the oil producing nations have been over estimated the reserves for many years and that we are much closer to being priced out of it's use for transportation of goods and people? Do not rising prices alone make these forms of energy fleeting at best, does';t conservation and replacement make economic sense?