Wong Fei Hung Tournament - Chi Sao - Hung Ching [Jack]

Senior disciple Jack Mazzola (black w/ white striped pants) in the chi sao division of the Wong Fei Hung tournament 2007.

Three of my Hung Ching students competed at the Wong Fei Hung Tournament. Senior disciple Elton Cohn took 1st place Gold Medal heavyweight Chi Sao division, Intermediate student Ryan Prezioso took 1st place Gold Medal lightweight Chi Sao, and Senior disciple Jack Mazzola won his first match which was said to be the most exciting one of the day then was disqualified for excessive contact in the second.

James Cama Sifu
Chinese Freemason Association Y.C.
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[kirstenperry]

It didn't look so clean when he almost threw up.

[bamboobug]

At 54 sec., you see Jack hitting his opponent with an internal strike, almost ending the match. These types of strikes are hard to see, and not always apparent, but very effective.

[shifudan]

chi sau is not fighting, so im not sure how i feel about these events, first time i ever seen it. Its a tough call because in that scenario the guys do whats expected they do whats needed to win and props to them. But it takes away everything chi sau is supposed to be for, you should stick and chase center, not just hit, push and get someone out of a stance and off a platform. Chi sau has a purpose and these competitions take way that purpose by making it about winning.

[Bed108]

True, in Jook Lum Praying Mantis it should not be hard against hard. It should be a combination of Hard And Soft, with footworks to distract the opponet, while the hands attack. Otherwist there is no "Art", and it would be like " Two Cows Fighting".

[devilzmantis]

@leavemtwisted so... since we're not gonna meet anytime soon, lets talk about a few things. People that will abandon Chi Sao if they dont have enough experience. if you teach chi sao to a 1 month student... he will not stay in chi sao AT ALL. A 1 year chi sao student will stay a bit until he feels he's outmatched... Someone masters the way of Wing Chun, will NOT abandon chi sao because it becomes 2nd nature. DO NOT GIVE UP on Chi Sao as it is the core of Wing Chun... make it 2nd nature

[devilzmantis]

@leavemtwisted so... since we're not gonna meet anytime soon, lets talk about a few things. People that will abandon Chi Sao don't have enough experience in it. if you teach chi sao to a 1 month student... he will not stay in chi sao AT ALL. A 1 year chi sao student will stay a bit until he feels he's outmatched... Someone masters the way of Wing Chun, will not abandon chi sao because it becomes 2nd nature. DO NOT GIVE UP on Chi Sao as it is the core of Wing Chun... make it 2nd nature

[devilzmantis]

@leavemtwisted i'm in San Francisco... if you're ever here, send me a message. it'll be great to exchange ideas and do some friendly chi sao.

[leavemtwisted]

@devilzmantis in all friendliness i would love to get together and exchange ideas hard to go back and forth here friendly chi sao im in new york city get back to me 

[leavemtwisted]

@bamboobug it was an illegal leopard strike

[devilzmantis]

@leavemtwisted wrong. it is hard to stay in chi sao is because people don't have enough experience or the correct training. when someone is wild... everything about wing chun comes into play for you.. your stance, your form, your elbows and your soft/hard energy. This means, you need to control his movements.

[devilzmantis]

@chachaman77 well i agree with you. there is no form here. when one guys starts pushing and rushing... everything goes out the window. no stance, no turns, no control.... they rush in and whoever lands their hand the first wins? LOL there's not even any power in those punches.

[devilzmantis]

@leavemtwisted i'll give you 2 examples. If your fist is on my face fully extended... you have no power like the person in this video. However, if your fist is on my face with your elbows bent... then I'd be scared. Do you understand this concept? With elbows bent, you have room to extend your punches. With your whole are fully extended while your fist is on his face is nothing. Do you understand this concept?

[leavemtwisted]

24 seconds in 4 hit combo very clean pwnd !!!

[leavemtwisted]

@chachaman77 its difficult to stay in chi sao when the other person is moving wildly i had the same problem in a tournement once the way i remedied it was i just kept battle punching down his center ...he wasnt covering himself but there was no point in me chasing his hands when he was open... by the end of the fight he was just holding my hands saying plz stop hitting me after the judges had said something to me about constantly hitting down the center i told them i do wing chun