Goa Trance vs. Psytrance ~ Cosmosis

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Goa Trance vs. PsyTrance

Artist: Cosmosis

So, here's a prime example of one artist's transformation from Goa legend to Psytrance producer. The artist is Cosmosis.

Made this for all who would like to further increase the ability to determine Goa from Psy. Also, to show how the Goa scene is slowly dying.

What you hear now is one of Cosmosis' Goa tracks from 1995, 'Dans Ta Figure.' It is regarded as a Goa classic along with the rest of the 'Cannabanoid' EP.

This is Goa.

Fast forward to Cosmosis' latest 2007 release, 'Psychedelica Melodica,' and you'll quickly notice a steep difference. Here is one track, 'Metaphysical Worlds.'

This is Psytrance.

It's a shame. But not /bad/. It is quality, but just not Goa anymore.

Goa = Organic
Psy = Metallic/Sharp

One member, Jeremy Van Kampen, left Cosmosis and kept the 'Laughing Buddha' moniker. His releases are more Goa influenced. But still lean toward Psytrance.

Keep Goa alive.

Thanks to all who watch, listen, and comment.

PLUR,

PsycloneD

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• Trance
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• psychadelic
• Dans
• Ta
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• 1995
• 2007
• Cannabanoid
• Psychedelica
• Melodica
• Metaphysical
• Worlds
• Jeremy
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• keep
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• alive

[grze0091]

What is difference between psychedelic trance and full on?

I'm not good in psy-trance

[PsycloneD]

@grze0091 Actually, I wish I could tell you, but full-on is even confusing for me. I want to say it's got more modern elements (lots of full on has electric guitars in it), but I'm not totally sure. :x I'venoticed that it's more upbeat and new-age-y if you know what I mean.

Respect for your curiosity! Keep on looking!

[GeminiAmbience]

I like how you break down some of the major differences in this video. The only thing I'd add is that many of the textural difference you've highlighted are also reflected in the changing taste in gear that producers started using. I miss hearing 909 + 303 combinations. Ever since the late 90's it's been nothing but Access and Nord. That's my biggest upset really - that modern day producers (with some exceptions naturally) most stick with either VSTs or a Virus.

[PsycloneD]

@GeminiAmbience That's very true. I'm glad you brought this up. Of course, new gear means easier production or simply just a different sound. I'm glad to see someone identify this issue with modern artists. But as we all know, as time progresses, new gear/software will make it more convenient for the producer, causing old gear to inevitably become a thing of the past. ...with the exceptions of course. ;)

Much respect.

[JustAReminder]

so the difference is more aesthetic then structural?

[PsycloneD]

I wouldn't go as far as to say THAT, but there's little structural difference. In a sense it's aesthetic, but there will always be exceptions to rules like that. :)

[jhwheeler7]

One thing I'm very interested in is the difference between New and Old school Goa...the stuff made after the turn of the century has definitely got a different flavor, compared to the older stuff. Even if it's lacking in full-on elements, it still sounds quite different. All I can tell is that it has something to do with the kick and the beat...perhaps the equipment they use is the key, as GeminiAmbience pointed out? Are there other differences, or structural ones?

[tasostsirios]

@PsycloneD full on groups like system nipel is melodic and more ''plastic'' than psychedelic like skazi or infected mushroom.full on nowdays is getting more and more mainstream. btw i love goa :)

[askadetra]

there are three psychedelic styles of trance: the original goa trance with indian music and its derivative forms psytrance and nitzhonot. goa trance is focused on the tb 303 sounds, psytrance is focused on the funky bass line and the sounds of industrial music, nitzhonot is victorious trance which is focused on crazy laser kicks and uplifting israeli melodies :)

[anyao123]

very nice explanation! I like both goa and psy trance :)

[askadetra]

nitzhonot wins the battle, even though it is not mentioned for this battle between goa trance and psytrance

[askadetra]

@grze0091 full on is a melodic psytrance form

[askadetra]

i prefer the original acid psychedelic goa trance than its derivative form psytrance

[newdawnhungary]

I dont like metal guitar sounds in goa ... metal guitar and spirituality? noooo waaaay......

[r0med0me]

kaaaameeeeeehaaaameeeee.......­........HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

[grze0091]

@PsycloneD

Thanks, you have best goa/psy-trance channel on you tube!:D