Ron Paul on Abortion and Stem Cell Research

ron paul is a resonable guy. i like him...

@seanw25 and if the disabled person has no plans for the future, is so disabled that he lacks consciousness or any understanding of time? By your logic we should be able to euthanize him. No abortion is legal only because the fetus is not a person. A person can only be an individual and not something attached to another human being. Once the fetus is outside the mother, it becomes a person with all the natural rights afforded to anybody else. It has nothing to do with pursuit of happiness.

no, it completely does. If the person wishes to be euthanized, they should be. If a person knows that everything past a certain point in their life will actually be worse than death, then the logical case is euthanasia. Taking a life is not intrinsically bad. People kill insects all the time. Taking away someone's consciousness, plans for the future, and relationships with others it what makes killing such a horrible offense.

@seanw25 if they want to be euthanized? No since the person is not concious we have no idea what he wants so if he is to be euthanized it is not by his own desire, but our own. An insects life is meaningless because it is an insect, we owe it nothing. Yet as humans we atleast owe each the same respect and dignity we want for ourselves. If we would not want to be killed we should not kill others etc. Finally not everyone has a "conscius plan for the future", whatever that drivel means,most drift

Maybe i should have said if they had previously made a document that dictated what they wanted if they were in a coma. Of course we should not kill them if they had no such document, or wanted to not be euthanized, or had any chance of waking. If they have zero chance of waking, they are essentially dead. If the personality, the essence of the person is gone, there is no real difference between a living empty shell, or a dead one.

@seanw25 if there is still brain activity than there is always a chance of them waking. Yet I do agree with that if the person is brain dead then there is no point in preserving their life. It is better that they are taken off of life support and meet a natural, dignified end.

i completely agree.

I said consciousness, AND a plan for the future. Why taking away consciousness is wrong i think we both know. When i said plans for the future, that could be as simple as wanting to wake up the next day.

withholding ones position on abortion, I think most people would say if they're going to live their life as a miserable vegetable...just kill me. most people.

America hasn't existed as a nation for more than a few centuries. ;-)