PoormansMachinegun.com Questions & Answers

I have been getting emails asking several questions. I hope this video will answer some of those questions!

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[fishwagon]

.....if you want to find out real quick, show up at your DNR range with one rigged up and unload a clip when a Federal agent is within earshot.

You go right ahead, smart guy.

[NineMMAR15]

I have demonstrated this to an ATF agent, who was at the gun shop/ shooting range I work at. He did not kill my dog or set fire to the shop. Nor did he confiscate my weapon for being a machine gun. I have taken all of the necessary steps in assuring viewers that this technique is not illegal. The reason why it is not illegal is because this technique can be done with or without a rubber band!

[fishwagon]

Like I SAID: Write or call the ATF and ask them if the rubber band qualifies as a modification device to produce automatic fire, and you will get a explaining how your theory is wrong and how you have created a class III weapon. Ive seen the letter. You should write the ATF, or google it and you will find out how your definition will land you with a felony.

.....and Ill guarantee you'll think twice about doing videos of You Tube about the subject. If you want to find out real quick

[NineMMAR15]

I really don't have time to correct you on what you think you know. All I can say is go to the ATF website/Firearms/Rulings. Look under ruling 2006-6. It does not mention rubber bands. The phone calls have been made, the letters have been written with no response.

If you are going to claim to know something then provide proof! Other wise stop spamming my videos with your accusations.

[fishwagon]

Rubber band qualifies he rifle as a class III weapon as soon as it is on the trigger.

Dont believe me? write the ATF, and ask them.

[NineMMAR15]

Wrong! Like the Hellstorm trigger device installing a rubber band on a semi-automatic rifle acts as an external trigger return spring!

I have contacted the FTB several times by letter asking them to classify the installation of a rubber band on a semi auto firearm. It seems they have refused to answer me, because they don't want this to be legal.

If the ATF FTB ever rule that this is illegal then all semi-auto will be illegal due to having a trigger return spring!

[viperkeeper]

Nice informative video. Common sense in a world with so little.

Cheers!

Al

[appagohm]

i had a 9mm ar build, i tried bump firing from shoulder, it is really hard. you make it seem easier then it is. Nice video dude. BTW rubber band isn't illegal, same as the shoe string and key ring. I forgot the case but someone was charged for using a shoe string and key ring to bump fire and the case got over turned. As too many people carry a guns, have a shoe, and have keys.

[badsugarterrors]

@fishwagon

This guy is "trolling". I always watch your vids dude.. good job. keep em' up. Show off some guns NineMMAR15

[velodemon]

could you please give me a detailed breakdown of your 9mmAR set up? Thanks, Jim

[jmmurdy]

nice video i didn't know your were in IN

[bobsolla]

good job on explanations to q&a on this video!keep on having fun!

[mocatz187]

@fishwagon OMG! what part of this don't you understand.

Rapid fire doesn't mean automatic fire. 9MMAR15 has clearly demonstrated that he can bumpfire without the rubber bands. BATF does not regulate rates of fire.

Why don't you believe anyone ever contacts the BATF. Many people have registred short barrled rifles including 9MMAR15, so that means he has had contacted the BATF. The BATF clearly states that automic fire is defined as firing 2 or more rounds per singular trigger pull.

[AlienZygote010]

@fishwagon - your reasoning is that one depression of the trigger for one shot is a class 3 weapon just because it shoots faster. So will the federal government outlaw Jerry Miculek's trigger finger? Because he can dump 9 rounds out of a 1911 in less than two seconds. So will th ATF outlaw practice and natural skill coupled with a fine tuned trigger group? that is an absurd notion

[s197stangdragger]

@NineMMAR15 the reason why it is legal is because, no matter how you do it (with rubber band or without) YOU the shooter are stilling pulling the trigger each time. Automatic fire is defined as more than one round per trigger pull. Oh and BTW, I have never seen two ATF agents that can agree on anything. Put them all in a room and one of them will swear up and down your gun is illegal. fishwagon has a point and you really dont wanna make a habit of showing the ATF your guns and mods to them.

[davidgcalderone]

Note, full auto is defined as more than one round fired with a single pull of the trigger. This rubber band method does not allow this. In reality the rubber band does not allow automatic fire, it just allows the trigger to reset very quickly. If he was to just hold the trigger back with the rubber band installed, he would only fire one shot.  The trigger must be reset for each shot.

[christopherjcoffey]

@fishwagon Shut the fuck up and get off of this page you idiot.