Was Christ Crucified? - Deedat vs Bishop Wakefield - 1 of 15
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@vmprophet ...muhammed was a killer and never repented.
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I also want to add.. That Paul killed many early christians according to the bible and that he was a roamn (Romans were pagans in those times)
Also Paul has more then 45% of the bible writings and jesus(pbuh) about 1% isnt this a bit odd?? Its also the only place were trinity or the worshiping of jesus(pbuh) is mentioned...
It seems to me its more like spreading a pagan-idea in christanity.. but ok
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Deedat is very convincing . You can not hide the the sun of the truth.
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@vmprophet in one way, possibly yes. In another way Christians will say that Paul's vision was of Christ himself and the messages Paul had can be backed up by the gospels and the Old Testament. Mohammed saw an angel; the bible says that the Devil can come as an angel of light (light being truth). So it is understandable why they don't accept Mohammed's claims.
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@StreetInsurgent As far as there never being a whole doctrine sent, true but then the bible was written by men that never met jesus and somehow that is considered devine? Paul never met Christs yet the main message behind the bible is based on his claims he claimed to have had a vision of christ thus leading him to the inspiration he had. So, Paul's account is acceptable by Christians, but Mohammed's is not? is that not hypocrisy?
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@StreetInsurgent . No offense taken. If you look at the interpretation of Christ's message in the Quran pretty much the same as in the bible, now Im talking about his message, not what Christians say he claimed to be. The only beef Christians have with Islam is 1- The crucifixion and 2- the Divinity of Christ, and that is all, and even those points are argued against by Christian scholars, you dont even need to have a muslim argue against it
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@vmprophet IMO everyone has simply misinterpreted Jesus' message. Christians and Muslims.. the Qu'ran has flaws as does parts of the bible. You say 'are we the ones who made God a man?'. Well i ask who is it that believes an entire book that was supposedly written by someone who was told by an angel what to write when every single other prophet was in constant contact with God directly? Yes angels can deliver messages but never once a whole doctrine. No offence; just curious. Salam alaikum
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@Redmissionary State your prove That The religion is not from God..Always losers say Stuff that doesn't mAke sence "(17) Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). !! Chap 2 Vs 17 same chap vs 15 "These are they who have bartered guidance for error: but their traffic is profitless, and they have lost true direction. You are in erorr REPENT to the only God who created the heavens and the earth!
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@silentbehn180 the same was told to the jews and the jews also pray in a single direction, towards jerusalem.
that doesnt mean they worship jerusalem, thats simply the direction they face while worshiping.
the sam for us, towards the ka'ba, that doesnt mean that god is ka'ba, ka'ba is a mosque, its a room in which abraham and ishmael prayed. does that mean they were praying inside god? no...thats simply the direction and that is with wisdom, to increase the sense of unity
@Redmissionary I blocked you because you are really really annoying, repeating the same line over and over again. I tell this guy the translations he has are not that good, that the arabic does not say women, or houris, or wide lovely eyes, and he just keeps on resending the same things. Example, you say the Quran says 72 Houries, I told you to show me where you got the 72 part cause that sure doesnt exist in the Quran, and you cant find it, you just keep posting over and over. Get a life.
vmprophet 1 year ago 16
@Redmissionary LOOL are you kidding me?? are you going to tell me, the person who studied arabic, knows arabic, that Al ilah is pre-islamic or whatever you called it. Give me a break. Al Ilah is NOT A NAME it is a Description ( THE GOD) Allah is a NAME!! Muslims worship a GOd of this world? Are Muslims the ones that made God a MAN? LIVING in this world? eating drinking? DID muslims do that? and we are the ones worshiping a god of this world? Laughable to the point of being so sad lool
vmprophet 1 year ago 7