Cruelty and the City

Support Intro 658 to BAN NYC Horse Drawn Carriages and end the cruelty. Pass the word around that a carriage ride is NO FUN for the horse. It is kinder and healthier to walk or take a pedicab.

Please attend the City Council Consumer Affairs Committees public hearing on Councilman Avella's two bill concerning carriage horses, and consider providing two minutes worth of testimony in support of this humane legislation. The meeting is scheduled to take place on Friday, January 30, 2009, at 10:00 a.m. on the 2nd floor of City Hall

o animal - domestic or wild can have its' natural instincts and genetics wiped out no matter how hard humans try to do so for their own greed and appetite. Cows and horses and all other animals do not thrive when their basic needs and instincts are denied.

This is why there have been 21 NYC horse carriage accidents that we know of in the last 10 years. The horses were spooked and took flight into traffic. LAIM THERE IS NO EXTREMIST AGENDA, ONLY VERIFIABLE FACTS. Another convenient tactic used by the carriage industry and their supporters is to say that only a fringe group of activists and 1 NY councilman want the industry banned in NYC. LISTEN UP! THE ASPCA, which volunteers to oversee the industry with their admitted inadequate resources, supports a ban. The ASPCA states that THE INDUSTRY IS INHUMANE, and NYC CANNOT BE CHANGED TO MAKE IT HUMANE AND SAFE! In addition to Peta, the Humane Society and ASPCA, numerous other equine welfare groups support a ban.


The industry is always coming up with clever spin that is always devoid of fact. No thinking equine expert would call working in Times Square, walking up and down 9th Avenue from their stalls in warehouses through the severely congested traffic a humane experience for horses (prey flight animals). The horses are slammed between buses and cars with honking horns, exhaust fumes, and total chaos. This is not normal and fair to any animal even if one tries to rationalize that they are used to it. No feeling creature gets used to abuse. To add insult to injury they have NO turnout (area to walk freely, stretch, socialize as herd animals AKA horse play. They suffer joint problems from walking on concrete in the heat and cold (high humidity and chill factors are not factored in for horses despite the real effect it has on them) where the temperature is much hotter and colder than the air temperature. They have inadequate stalls sizes which prevent many of the horses from fully stretching out to sleep well and the horse who are housed above the first floor of the warehouses have no direct escape to the ground should their be a fire. The list goes on and on so LIAM GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU ROMANTIZE THIS INDUSTRY. As far as the industry losing approximately 400 jobs, oh please, this is life. We all must take responsibility for staying skilled and ready to evolve as industries evolve. They are not owed welfare just as other workers must take responsibility to stay talented, skilled and ready for new employment needs/trends. Health care, manufacturing, and IT employees just to mention a few- have all had to retool.

Listening to the industry and their supporters (celebrity or not) is like listening to the tobacco industry explain why smoking is safe while ignoring the American Medical Associations expert opinions.

AS WE EMBARK ON POSITIVE CHANGE AS A COUNTRY, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A NEW COMPASSIONATE AND SAFE "TRADITION"!

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[rubeeye127]

I guess I don't see the cruelty. A horse drawn carriage. It was standard for hundreds of years. Instead now we use cars which pollute and use our fossil fuels. I think it's alot more cruel to destroy our mother earth.

[horsesinnyc]

But the horses feel pain and suffering as you do and how they live inhumanely in NYC is cruel. The ASPCA supports the ban and I put the link on my page. they pass out from heat exhaust and pound on hot asphalt pavement. it is very cruel

[lmarieaa]

Poor horses never get turnout, I think that's the saddest part if this. Denying this animal what it craves most.

[Suspiciousbaglady]

The horse shown @:58 is noticeably limping. I can't be the only person who sees this... WTF?

[geffrod]

@skynat247 In his crazy world, if cruelty strikes with frequency of lightning striking one spot, then the whole industry is corrupt. Being raised with talking animals and other Disney creations floating around in his/her head, the mere sight of them not doing something magical or romantically prancing in luscious meadows, draws an unnatural ire from him. Man, smell that bullshit: "21 NYC horse carriage accidents that we know.." Because minor things like "axle broke" = animal abuse, right? Idiot.

[skynat247]

Please learn before you speak. These horses are just like all the people. they need to work to live, they are in a symbionic relationship with humans. no IDIOT would overwork their horse. EVERY ONE OF THOSE DRIVERS KNOWS THIS FACT- An overworked and tired horse is a dead one, and a dead horse does NOT make money. Therefore the drivers respect their horses, and in return for their hardrwork, the horses get a safe home, clean water, and good food.

If thats animal cruelty, i dont understand life.

[kinyaron]

the horse seems like its enjoying being given way by the trucks

[ZestyFlash]

In Vendargues in France since last december they collect the garbages with horses and they want to add more horses to water the city plants and to drive the kids to school. I think this is really going to help the horses and help the kids and everybody to learn more about horses.

[ZestyFlash]

Do we really chose to go to work? Did everybody really chose there jobs?

I get it, my horse dosen't speak so I need to be her voice and take decisions for her like I do for my kids. But my mare is an adult and she needs go to work just like me.

If we want to help the horses we should think about how we could improve the jobs that they have and to give them a bigger place in humans hearts.

(Sorry about my spelling I know it's probably wrong because I've only learned english oral.)

[ZestyFlash]

How many species are in danger because of the evoluation of the cyties? If you want to protect the horses you should start by protecting there spaces in our cyties.

I agree there is some changes that should be done to help those horses, like special lines (like we do for the bus or the bicycle) for them to avoid the trafic jams.

[MuleKist]

@burpeemetaldrumguy - "just" a horse? That is the problem with your kind of attitude...."just" a horse, an animal, so is ok to exploit and mis-use?

[MuleKist]

@ZestyFlash - "We' have the free choice to leave,...get it?