The 'Virgin' Mary: To My Catholic/Orthodox Friends

Pt 1: Introduction: Condensed from a Bible study about Mary, from a biblical perspective, not traditional. One thing to add: Why isn't there even ONE account of Jesus talking to His mother after the Resurrection?

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[Strefanasha]

they do worship mary. how do i know? The passion and emotion they have toward her. marian doctrine is the most grossly offensive catholic doctrine there is, IMO, and the chief reason why i will never become a catholic

[pennylaneproductions]

@Strefanasha They call her 'our life, out sweetness, our hope'...yet they claim it is not worship. If you suggested they build a church without a single graven image you would find out where they stand.

[ThePanaghia]

Pentru toti ereticii care nu cred in Maicutza Domn ului............dak nu era ea nu exista nici Hristos pe pamant

[pennylaneproductions]

@ThePanaghia Can you say that in English?

[Strefanasha]

@BiblicalGreekChronos the question "how can this be for i know not a man" can only be said to apply to her at that and up to that time.

there is absolutely nothing in the biblical text nor in plain common sense which implies from this that she was a life long virgin.

I submit that the idea that it does comes from the late roman empire period when the worldview darkened and people started to think that sex was intrinsically evil, which of course it is not

[shaunleeky]

EL SEñOR DE JESUS ESTA CON MARI EN LAS PALABRAS DE DIOS! Y SI CICESX AL CONTRARIO ERES MENTIROSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!

[BiblicalGreekChronos]

Part IV. We call her the bearer of God because she bore Jesus, our God, in her womb.

We call her ever-virgin because we believe that Jesus' brothers were from Joseph's first marriage and that Mary was a virgin her whole life, based on the statement: "πῶς ἐπεὶ ἄνδρα οὐ γινώσκω;" (Luke 1:34b) "How will this be, since I know not man?" γινώσκω is in the Present Active Indicitive form indicating a state of being. She does not say she has not known a man (past), but that she knows no man, she won't.

[BiblicalGreekChronos]

Part III: Immaculate because she died in a sinless state, having her sins forgiven because she was washed in the Blood of Christ just like any other believer. In the East, we DO NOT believe in the Immaculate Conception of Mary, as it is completely unbiblical.

Most blessed and glorified Lady because she was blessed with the honour of bringing Jesus, the Christ, into this world. We call her glorified because she was in the state of believe (ἐν δόξος) and thus glorified as all believers will be.

[BiblicalGreekChronos]

Part II: We, in the East, call Mary: Τῆς Παναγίας, ἀχράντου, ὑπερευλογημένης, ἐνδόξου, δεσποίνης ἡμῶν Θεοτόκου καὶ ἀειπαρθένου Μαρίας. This means The All-Holy, Immaculate, Most blessed and glorified Lady, the bearer of God, and ever Virgin Mary.

All-Holy is not dogmatic and is most of the time not used. However, because she is seen as the "New Eve", having submitted to God, she is Holy because of God's Grace.

[BiblicalGreekChronos]

Part I: While in some ways, you raise valid points, you do not seem to understand that there is a distinct difference between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Church makes the claim that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, that she is the Co-Redemptrix and Co-Mediatrix. These ideas are unknown in the East.

[YeshuaisYahweh1]

@mondoshrimpo Yeah, thats just one of hundereds of Catholic miracles. There has also been the eucharist that became actual flesh. But pathetic protestants say that it is Satan. They say that because God never does anything miraculous for their cults.