Writing DIY: The Craft and The Bullshit pt.2

What is art and blah blah blah. People are unhelpful and blah blah blah. How do I get to where I want to get to?

I mention in one of these videos Hopscotch by Julio Cortázar.

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• Julio
• Cortázar
• hopscotch
• novel
• short
• story
• writing
• fantasy

[zac2491]

Wow this was a really good pair of videos. As an aspiring novilist I found a lot of interesting points here, I too am into the Fantasy genre.

[uoyevolotevol]

whoa! i know what you're talking about. that's julio cortázar, it's magical realism. i learned that genre in spanish in high school. that's cool that you're adapting a primarily latin american genre

[Rythsaad]

Ok then, I think we can end it here.

Thank you.

[burnvictim77]

Ah, well, personally I see the Black Square and Blank Canvas as artistic statements, rather than works of art. They are basic exercises which shows us something about art and how we interpret it. However, they are really only singular elements and not full works, though I admit that is a very subjective distinction.

[Rythsaad]

I see...very well then.

Is Malevich's Black Square art? And what does it communicate?

[burnvictim77]

I do believe in teenage diaries. However, what they generally represent (without getting to far into the philosophy of self, here) is a communication between the "me" at 13 and the "me" at some later age. And I wouldn't call them art.

Nor would I call Kid Rock art, but that's a whole different conversation. :)

[Rythsaad]

Absolutely. I have no argument there.

So even if it can't be purely either of the two, both - you and mrmortonblogs are right to an extent - the intent of either creation or communication can be a primary reason for art. And you certainly have the right to your own opinion based on the evidence you've encountered.

I guess you don't believe in teenage diaries. :p

[burnvictim77]

Not knowing what is going on in someone's else head doesn't mean we can't base our opinions on what evidence and reason can lead us to understand. The goal is to able to create a work of communication. This doesn't take being seen by anyone else to make it "art"... it's the intent. The intent is expression, regarless of whether it is destroyed before another sees it or not.

[Rythsaad]

And yeah, art can be and definitely is a form of communication. But are you saying that art can truly obtain its status as art only when it is finally perceived and realised by outside observers other than the creator?

[Rythsaad]

Fair enough but then so can the situation with the dying artist who supposedly hopes his paintings to be found someday by someone. I personality tend not to be overly generalistic in these sorts of situations. I can never truly know what goes on in somebody else's head. The material representation of art certainly allows for the possibility of being exposed, doesn't mean it was the primary or otherwise subconscious intent of the artist.