IRV: Real Democracy Doesn't Exist Without It [AntiBullshitMan]

Got cut off at the end there. I was basically just saying that if you agree with IRV, leave a comment here endorsing its implementation. Maybe even make a video of your own explaining why IRV is a crucial component to achieving a real representative democracy. We need tons of people to endorse this thing in order for it to go anywhere, so it's somewhat of a wild goose chase, but it doesn't hurt to contribute. And of course, if you don't want to see it implemented, let me know why.

IRVoting channel:
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[Encephalitisify]

I could sit here all day long giving you sources, and you still would find a way to deny yourself the truth. Its what makes you a good sheep.

[AntiBullshitMan]

"I could sit here all day long giving you sources"

I defy you to provide just one. You've failed to do so twice so far. Because your initial claim is horseshit.

"Its what makes you a good sheep"

Not taking your baseless claims at your word & requesting evidence makes me teh sheep. Got it.

"if it hasn't come from your favorite propagandist"

Sustainable peer reviewed data = Propaganda. Got it. From now on I shall restrict all my future research solely to sources from special interest groups.

[Encephalitisify]

Just do a search on change election "insert year". You will find all kinds of "evidence".

[AntiBullshitMan]

@Encephalitisify

This is like telling me that in order to find evidence for David Ike's reptilian theory, I need to keyword search "David Ike's Reptilian Theory" and I'm sure to be successful.

You need to cite actual peer reviewed investigative journals which support your claim and which have stood the test of time, if you want to be taken seriously. Or better yet, re-read my initial reply and actually let it sink in this time.

[Encephalitisify]

Voting is totally fake. They change the rules every election to suit who they want to win based on a set of candidates chosen by those in power.

[AntiBullshitMan]

@Encephalitisify

Neat extraordinary claim there. You wouldn't happen to have any extraordinary evidence to go along with that, would you? Nah, of course you wouldn't.

The only "rules" changed are those of exposure. An motivated electorate can easily force feed an uncompromised candidate. The first 2 steps towards this, are explained in this video. The reason nothing ever gets done is because people like you choose to ignore these steps & instead just regurgitate the same nay-saying drivel.

[Encephalitisify]

lol "peer reviewed investigative journals" LMAO. So in other words if it hasn't come from your favorite propagandist, then your not listening. Can't argue with someone like that. You have a nice life dude. I would suggest you take logic 101 in college. Calls to authority are illogical. The search engine gives you tons of local news outlining changes each year in election laws on a local level. When x = x it doesn't matter where it comes from, its true.

[Emil246]

break up both parties into smaller parties also.

[malachin9n]

The problem with IRV as far as I can see is it does not fairly weigh how much you want your first choice candidate. In a 3 party election (which is to be preferred in every situation over 2 party elections) your first choice should count more than your second choice. That way if my first option doesn't have enough votes to win outright but he is also the favored secondary option, he should then still win. Think of it as a primary vote worth 2 pts, and a secondary vote worth one pt.

[Mutex50]

IRV is better than plurality, but it has a lot of problems and doesn't stop spoilers. It would be better to use the Condorcet method or use Approval Voting with a top two runoff.