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Lilly Ledbetter - Paycheck Fairness Act - ACLU

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  • This woman is a thug idiot, if your marginal revenue product is higher than you are paid for then voluntarily ask for a raise or quit. Do not be a coercive thug idiot. Anyone like that thug that acts like a criminal should be charged as such.

  • @Gogonostop

    The Wage Gap (Myth) as been debunked repeatedly since it's inception. The only reason it remains is because the supporters of it, and it's orbiting industries, need it for their stances to be "valid".

    I bet you if Good Year brought in an HR Specialist with a background in Accounting & Economics they would have won as I'll bet you again (double down) she has weak negotiation skills and over her career missed 10 - 20% of total work hours using male peers as then benchmark.

    Who's in?

  • You are right, however, in asking the question: When does an individuals freedom stop? Should the government recognize a corporation as an individual with the same rights as every human employee? If the corporation as a whole is working illegally, should they be able to legitimately suppress their employees speech? How about if people are just getting shafted for 10 cents? How about if the company is killing people? Wheres the line?

  • While you might not agree that every case the ACLU takes on meets you're own definitions of "freedom", you do recognize that the freedom they fight for in general is important; which is why youre a member? No one wants to support pedophilia, but if the government suppresses speech supporting pedophilia, then where will they be forced to stop? Who holds the line? The ACLU.

  • 'zactly! An' if an employer don't wanna hire no darkies or dotheads or homos, they got that right too!

  • What about the liberties of the employer? The employer should be able to pay their employees whatever they want. But here we go again, I'm in awe that the ACLU us supporting such a bill. Makes me wonder why I joined...

  • (continued)

    The woman may need to take maternity leave once or twice during which time I can't use her skills. Or the man, who I can always use. This may not be PC but it is a reason. Employers don't need to justify their motives to some bureaucrat before determining a wage.

    My main point is that the ACLU should be fighting attacks on liberty not encouraging them. This, along with many of their positions, makes them hypocrites.

  • Firstly, the Dept. of Labor released a report on Jan. 12 last year debunking the wage gap

    Secondly, this is the ACLU. It is supposed to support liberty. But let's analyze this through a pragmatic lens.

    There are a number of reasons why a woman would be paid less. High wages are a way to keep employees, pay them more & they won't quit. If I am an employer and there are 2 people, a man and a woman, and they're equal in every way except sex. Who do I want to keep?

  • you ever pay them anything more than 70.1% of what men are paid EVEN IF their work is just as valuable? The problem is that a market distortion has effectively skewed the bargaining power in favor of employers.

  • Equal rights and laws aside - your argument favors market distortions and produces failures. You assume that the practice of paying women less is rational without supporting the idea. Recall that even as far back as w/ Adam Smith's WON, Smith cautioned that discrimination based on non-economic factors could produce inefficient results.

    Just think about it - you're an employer and you know the other employers pay women 70% of what men are paid. Regardless of how good they do. Why would

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