I challenge you - Make me a theist!!

This guy is very good at explaining the process of how an x-christian came to lose his faith.
This is a summary and still last over an hour so I understand if you don't watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsAZSz2Yb_8&feature=feedlik

The whole series can be found here and last approximately about 3 hours: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA0C3C1D163BE880A (simply press play all)

I do hope you find the time to watch it



FUCK YOUTUBE, my last uploade try!!
Go watch the God George Carlin - religion is bullshit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o&feature=feedlik

After watching the religious chalk story, which is surposed to get us thinking about the possibility of there being a God, I wanted to return the favor. I have to admit that I don't have a story of my own, so with a little help from George Carlin I'll just think out loud and ask some questions, which I am still left with - even after that "convinsing" story I heard. ;P Dont take the titel too seriously lol - I made this for fun

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[bubbi83]

...giants, flying creatures on four legs and unicorns. How can you say that this is a choice?

I am not proclaiming to be a god or have the answer for what follows death, I just simply haven't come across a decent explanations, that does not take into account something supernatural besides, that when we are dead we are dead and that is it, end of story!

And this is why I say that it is too late for me and there is no way back :)

[bubbi83]

...evidence that I am who I say I am, and rightfully so - otherwise we would have seen ALOT of second comings by now. Why is it then too much for me to ask the same of God?

I know you think that these are simply excuses. I however find them valid points. I cannot... CANT not wont (though i do not like or need god in my life and have no problems stating that i actually don't want to believe either - this right now is a pure CAN'T) believe in a BOOK that consists of talking snakes...

[bubbi83]

...a few more questions and didn't follow Hitler by his words, WWll might not have gone so far and this is not the only time people have followed blindly.

If I were to tell you that I actually am the second coming of Christ and that I am here to tell the world that my words throughout the ages, have become twisted to benefit Mans desire for power and prosperity. But I am here to find and bless the true servants of God. Would you then believe me? Of cause not, you would need....

[bubbi83]

...me how to live my life - it is just a book, it comes by the dozen at the library, there are no other evidence of its truth, than what is written in it. Why should I believe in this one and not the others?

Well God want us to prove our love for him by trusting him, that is why there is no evidence - or as you say the "evidence"/witness will present itself AFTER you have accepted Christ. Yeah? Well I have a problem, with following blindly without evidence. If the Germans would have...

[4GodSoLoves]

@bubbi83 "I take is as a testament that you do not wish to see me go to hell" No, I don't really know what Hell is. I tell you because I wish you'd go to Heaven, that you'd know love like you never dreamed a person could. "I would credit you for doing a way better job than he does" Hardly. He made the way for you. I just pointed it out. Frustrated? You bet. "...have a nice life." You to.

[bubbi83]

@4GodSoLoves I appreciate the chat and even your attempt to "save" me, I take is as a testament that you do not wish to see me go to hell - what ever that might be - despite what your god thinks. And I would credit you for doing a way better job than he does - don't forget to laugh and smile and love even when we infidels frustrate you by "not getting it", have a nice life ;)

[4GodSoLoves]

@bubbi83 ...deep down inside you know it's your heart - your spirit. So, good luck with your life. I hope you get out of it all you want it to. God Bless.

[4GodSoLoves]

@bubbi83 ...when I've said it all repeatedly. You've read what I said in this pages and you've read my article. Like I said before, God just says tell them. He doesn't require that I convince you. If you say it's too late for you, then it is so because you have decided that, not because it has been decided by any other way. So- so be it. As you wish, so it will be done - you need no excuses - you have every right to decide this for yourself. You reason that it's your mind that leads you when...

[4GodSoLoves]

@bubbi83 "Why simply not make the tree? Would it really have made their love for him, any less real?" This and everything else you've stated proves you just don't want to get it. You said these things in spite of all my explaining. It isn't possible that you misunderstood what I've said unless you just don't 'want' to. We have gone on now for about 12 pages and it has been only you and me. I don't think I can say it more clearly than I have already, so I see no reason to go on any further...

[bubbi83]

...You say that it all comes down to a choice - a choice to love and trust in God. THIS is the essential point where atheist and Christians crash's. I do not see a choice. If someone holds a gun to your head and said "Love me or I'll kill you" would you be able to obliged? Then there is the point if belief is a choice. I do not see the choice. On one hand I have science, evidence, things that require proof, things I can see touch, smell taste! On the other I have a book that tell's...