Pt.1/9 High Anxieties - The Mathematics of Chaos

David Malone http://golemxiv-credo.blogspot.com author of The Debt Generation, http://www.debtgeneration.org directs and presents this film, It is the first part of a documentary first shown on BBC4 Television in the UK in September 2008. The film was first broadcast 2 days after the collapse of Lehman brothers at the start of the financial crisis. It looks at the discoveries in mathematics during the 20th Century which have challenged the view that the world is an essentially knowable and therefore controllable place. The film focuses on the economy and the environment and suggests that ideas about unpredictability, the butterfly effect and tipping points, stemming from mathematics, are part of what underlie some modern anxieties about the world we live in.

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[movcrit]

@AntiSpeciesistWorld You could empirically verify whether or not the Universe could operate cyclically. I am not claiming that you are wrong. I claim you don't have evidence to come to any conclusion from a standpoint of logical positivism.

I mentioned something earlier in this discussion. About linguistics, nothing is very hard to define in actuality/metaphysics. Do you mean nothing as in no radiation/matter/and space?

[AntiSpeciesistWorld]

@movcrit well unless you believe that nothing existed then something came how can you conclude otherwise than there always has been something. And be existence I refer to things, something, anything. I'm talking outside of the universe, into the Multiverse. If it is true of course and who knows what else lies beyond there, some scientific theories suggest higher spacial dimensions. But anything is what I consider existence.

So either nothing produced something or there's always been something.

[movcrit]

@AntiSpeciesistWorld How do we come to the conclusion that existence has always been around and what do you mean by existence?

[AntiSpeciesistWorld]

@movcrit Well if I rephrase it to "there is nothing" then that's a better picture of what I meant. I don't mean nothing exists in the way you think it, I mean it as in "there is nothing".

It seems to make more sense for there to be no things rather than existence & things if you think about it. I mean everything has a cause and comes from somewhere but unless my theory is correct, we have to conclude existence has always been around without any cause which doesn't make sense.

[movcrit]

@AntiSpeciesistWorld I know what you mean in terms of physics but in terms of metaphysics the state that nothing exists is linguistically contradicting.

[AntiSpeciesistWorld]

@movcrit I didn't mean nothing exists, I mean that no things exist, existence doesn't persist if you may. I know it's confusing but I mean that nothing exists as in there is no things. Not that I mean nothing is a thing that exists.

[movcrit]

@AntiSpeciesistWorld

"1. Nothing exists." Is a contradictory nothing is something for it to exist.

[AntiSpeciesistWorld]

One overview theory I have for everything is:

1. Nothing exists

2. Nothings means no laws of physics (therefore its possible for things to spontaneously come into existence)

3. Most things are paradoxical therefore destroy themselves yet the things that make sense come into existence

4. Mathematics exist and describe reality (encompassed within the holographic universe theory)

5. Infinite number of universes (M-theory)

6. Small fraction host life

7. Our universe is one of those

8. We are here

[AntiSpeciesistWorld]

2:45 perhaps the problem is that people always want to blame someone. Sometimes no one is to blame.

[nthomas87]

@UndeadTheta -- Did you pay attention to the title at all? Or what this documentary is about? That's why.