Democrat's "speechless" speech
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@dakota19021 Oh FFS. That is the most 2nd grade way to look at the problem. I get closer and closer each day to losing my patience with simple acting idiots like you each day.. You can not be this dumb, and still have the ability to turn on a computer. /watch?v=tF_xHFBDhqE How about this. How freaking simple can we make this for you. Want flashcards?
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@yuriatayde they do have platforms you can read....
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@yerk3 The Republicans say they want to help create jobs, the Democrats want to help create jobs. They have slightly different means towards this end. The substance of the argument is these differences. It isn't either side saying "They are against creating jobs!" It's bullshit theatrics. I don't know how to explain it more clearly than that.
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@megamarsvin Again, how does the delivery impact the truthfulness of what is being said? The "performance" in the video got the message across quite nicely, the only concrete claim you can make is that it may potentially be used by Republicans. Of course Republicans will be childish, that's not something we can change, it's not our fault they're so stupid.
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@yerk3 "Cross that bridge"? Dude that bridge was built decades ago. It's been in use so long it's barely capable of bearing the load of bull that both sides ferry over it.
Politicians, democratic and republican alike, have been using it to push simplistic populist bullshit in our faces for my entire adult life. It's all parlor tricks and everyone acts surprised when nothing changes. But the politician looks great for his photo-op and gets his soundbite played on TV. That's the whole goal.
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@ProportionalResponse No that's true, it's unfair to blame the politicians or the media for that matter. They just give us what we want to hear. Though the situation is somewhat exacerbated by lobbyists who deliberately obfuscate the issues, the society itself is the root cause. We prefer populist finger-pointing at the "other side" and complaining about taxes to actually getting informed and involved.
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@megamarsvin Ah, so your position is based on a completely arbitrary opinion of how politicians should act. No creative methods must be used, dialogue must be as stilted by arcane convention as possible. As for the possibility of Republicans using tactics like these, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. There's no way the Republican party could make themselves any less credible than they already are.
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@hugesinker Where do you make the connection between "theatrical bullshit" and not "knowing what the other side is saying?" What does the guy tearing paper in this video not know about "what the other side is saying?" He's using a prop, he's using a creative tactic to get his point across, how does that detract from the validity of his position?
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@yerk3 If not giving a shit about jobs was their position, there wouldn't be anything. You have to know what the other side is actually saying before you can engage in a meaningful discussion about it. That's one of the very first things taught in a high school level critical thinking class. This kind of theatrical bullshit posturing epitomizes the problem with the level of discourse in this country. We would be better off if he just walked up, farted into to mic, then went back to his seat.
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@megamarsvin Part of the issue, is that it is hard to grap people's attention anymore, so you can teach them the truth, without doing something like this. Sad, I agree. You give me an attention getting way to educate, and I'd give it a try.
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@yerk3 The problem is that you're poisoning the well. Even if a silly trick "gets the job done" for the truth, it can just as easily do so for a lie. As I said in my previous comment, democracy can not function with an uninformed electorate and these parlor tricks play into that. It has nothing to do with orthodoxy, if anything this "style" of politics has become orthodox. But it's not helping us. It's just distracting people.
Just out of curiosity, how is tax code reform an attack on women?
thegillotine09 9 months ago
@thegillotine09 related to attack on Planned Parenthood.
ProportionalResponse 9 months ago 2