Deprogramming Jehovah's Witnesses - Interview With Charlie and Brother X - Ohio - Part 1 of 3

This interview is with two of Jehovah's Witnesses from Ohio. I felt very bad about this interview because the man named Charlie who I believe said was from the Cleveland area was really trying to be honest and I had a lot of respect for him, though you can see he didn't seem to have a very good knowledge of the inner workings of this cult. He's also not "in the know" that the authoritative "elders" of this cult are in. I found it very interesting when he told me that the Mormons would be correct in shunning their members even if they were to become Jehovah's Witnesses. What?! Notice Brother X evading many things, though he does briefly admit to no announcement being made to the congregation warning of when a pedophile is in their midst. He also blatantly lies about having publications other members do not have that the elders are given that Charlie previously admitted he was unaware of, while claiming to be an "elder" (handler) for over twenty years and would not directly answer when asked directly about it. He also refused to give his name though I believe he said he was from the Columbus area prior to the actual interview, obviously having much to hide. It's so sad to see men who believe they have the truth go to such great lengths to hide details regarding this religion. Though I felt great sadness after the filming of this interview, I do feel it serves a great asset as a means to an end in proving several issues regarding the mind control being applied within this cult. I know Jehovah's Witnesses everywhere will despise me for making this video and I'm truly sorry that YOU feel this way, but I do feel the benefit will come from all those who critically look at this religion and avoid it at all costs.

Craig

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[De5054]

Not once do these 2 ding-dongs get the bible out! Unbelievable. Why worry about 'apostates'.? Their club can implode without any faux-enemy bogeymen input.

Seriously, Isn't that the whole deal.? Bible students.? That would involve getting the damn book out. Hardly God -fearing bible students.

Not exactly young. They didn't even wave a bible. Paraphrasing part verses seems to be good enough for the Jonadab class/ great crowd et'c. They didn't even show 1 verse.

Dumb as a bag of wet mice.

[De5054]

Quote PT "Dubs aren't used to being questioned. They're used to doing all the talking...."

Glaringly correct PT. Not only 'not used to being questioned', but they don't like being questioned. Utterly arrogant when squared with the fact that these marionettes are militantly non-intellectual.

Great job. && it's a picture to clock the face of that 'elder' when you rhyme-off the name of the 'elder' MI-5, eyes-only book.

'Always gives me a chuckle.

"How d'you know about that !!" *Laughs*

[RioAbajoBelen]

We have a disfellowshipped family member living with us and trying to get back into the club. Once you witness this first hand, for a year, and watch how it is so destructive.....you'll never join a club like this again.

You really do have freedom to worship if you allow yourself to be free.

[thesangster]

@propagandatechniques I got it. I'll reply when I get a chance. God bless, and thank you.

Stan

[propagandatechniques]

@thesangster I am going to send you a link to an article posted on the adventistreview web site: "Is Church Discipline Still Needed" and am going to ask for your analysis of the article. I am going to ask you to identify some key questions this article should raise.

[thesangster]

@propagandatechniques I can't really say what it means to an SDA perse, but I can only state what it means in general. I hear that term used a lot with JWs, but practically never with SDAs, at least so far in my experience. Apostate is "a person who forsakes his religion, cause, party, etc", and it is "of or characterized by apostasy". The Shepherd Rod founder "Victor Houteff", I believe, was considered an apostate, and I think "Desmond Ford". However, we can speak to them, and befriend them.

[propagandatechniques]

@thesangster Thanks for explaining (apostate). Please tell me something: What exactly is an apostate to an SDA, and what does one have to do to become one? Thanks.

[thesangster]

@thesangster Well, from my personal experience, there are people I know that had left the faith, and they are still my friends today. I am not considered to be an apostate for doing so. So this is why I find it very difficult for me to accept this view. JWs, on the other hand, are not like that. You cannot even say, "hello", to an apostate according to them. So SDAs do not experience this, at least from my perspective.

[thesangster]

@propagandatechniques good point.

[thesangster]

@propagandatechniques "Let me get this straight; wasn't it YOU that lumped yourself into the SDA group? Or am I missing something?" - With the SDA group, yes, NOT WITH JWs. So please do not lump me with JWs, as if I am trying to ignore an act I really don't see that we should be accused of. I am sincerely asking, not avoiding your points.

Divergent is one who differs from somethings, not apostate. Apostate has a different meaning.

[propagandatechniques]

@thesangster Let me get this straight; wasn't it YOU that lumped yourself into the SDA group? Or am I missing something? Also, How exactly would the "sane leadership . . . put the brakes on . . divergent" individuals? Divergent sounds a lot like JW "apostate" loaded language to me. Is "divergent" a word SDAs use often?

[propagandatechniques]

@thesangster Um . . that would be correct if it said "brakes" instead of "breaks."