VMI Class of 2013 Breakout Day wake up
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The Citadel just teaches you to put up with stuff a man should never have to put up with. We have a Citadel alum teaching at VMI, he was a Summerall Guard, and he's ashamed at what his school has become. "Real" is relative, but if you want to learn how to become a great officer and get trained instead of get hazed;, then VMI is the place to go. The Citadel is a pretend military school, but it certainly is funny to watch.
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We are not on the same track. It's not about promotions, ribbons, awards, or what your CO thinks of you. It's about your enlisted guys. You don't have to say you're from VMI and frankly they won't care anyway, it will show. The enlisted joes will see that their PL is not an ordinary butterbar piece of crap, he spent 4 years through the ringer and knows the true meaning of fighting for every scrap you have.
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@2011VMICadet Since you put it that way, the 0300 thing may have been sacreligious in a way. The rest were just me going "hey, that was cool but it would have been better if..." Ain't no arguement here about "the older we get the tougher it was" arguement. You see "downgrading" in just your 4 years there, I challenge anyone to say otherwise. Is it still challenging today? Absolutely. Will I go through it again even with today's standards? Absolutely not. Once is enough, thank you.
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I honestly do not believe that one bit. A soldier is a soldier is a soldier, right? No matter what country he was trained in, right? I believe personal traits are a huge part of the equation but the place of "molding" and foundation-setting is also important.
"The ones who come out on top are the ones who have been trained in the hardest school." — Thucydides
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An officer is an officer is an officer. Commissioning source doesn't matter jack squat. There are fantastic officers from ROTC and there are terrible officers from West Point. In the end, it's a matter of the man, not the commisioning source.
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A lot of enlisted guys hate academy officers by default unless given a reason not to. I have yet to find the senior NCO or junior NCO that has told me he loves West Point officers. I've heard a lot of great stuff about VMI and Citadel officers, but I think that's because we have spent four years living with other cadets of a different branch. My main criticism of the Service Academies is that they teach Cadets how to interact with officers of their own branch.
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@theartofsnipe You're 100% wrong. Do you think that CO's and other officers did not go to VMI, Citadel, etc? The military is filled with academy officers; filled with them. They look out for each other all the time and have their own little cabals here and there. It makes all the difference in the world whether an officer went to an academy with respect to their individual careers.
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The morning wake-up failed. LOLS
0500?!?! You all should have done it at 0300 like they do durning "Drum Outs." You got "little John" firing, good. The M16s and M4s...check. I especially liked the Patton recording, nice touch. But where were the Cadre or the RDC? (maybe it was took dark a video to see them?) You all could have amped it up a bit by throwing in some grenade sims and have a M240 (or two) going at it. That would have created some sweet wake up music. :)
vmi02raven 1 year ago
@vmi02raven
Pre-0500 wakeups are reserved for one thing and one thing only, something we hold dear to our hearts -the Honor Code. We don't want anything to be near that time because nothing comes close to its importance, and the Rats must by law be given a certain amount of sleep. A lot of people complain that VMI isn't what it used to be and that is true for the better and for the worse. The only thing I think is completely true is that the Ratline will still be a challenging process.
2011VMICadet 1 year ago
@2011VMICadet How's it gotten less hard? I'm an incoming rat.
ThePresidentFreeman 6 months ago
@ThePresidentFreeman
I never said it's gotten less difficult, in fact I remember a discussion I had with our Commandant in which he said he believes the Ratline nowadays is harder than it was when he went through in the 70s. I don't think it's gotten less difficult, I just think it's changed both for the better and worse. All in all it's still a beast, not to be taken lightly. Keep in mind we have the last adversarial system in the country. Check your messages.
2011VMICadet 6 months ago