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[believeonetime]

@Rauydian Jerald Dirks is a lost man ... A liar ...And never has been a saved by the blood of JESUS ....Christian

He Rambles on and on about things he don't even believe just listen to him make it up as he go's... it takes a FOOL to believe any thing this man says ...YOU ARE SMARTER THAN THAT

[believeonetime]

Jerald Dirk is a liar

John 17

King James Version (KJV)

1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

[zorin85]

@bel: Let's take a closer look at Matt 1:23. "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and THEY WILL CALL him Immanuel" (emphasis added). Who is THEY? His family? His followers? Critics?

The fact is NONE of them called Jesus as Immanuel. Period. There is NO THEY. In fact the name Immanuel does NOT occur at all in the entire New Testament, except in ... you guessed it - Matt 1:23. What does that tell you?

Verdict: another FALSE or UNFULFILLED prophecy. Make your choice.

[zorin85]

@bel: Let's read how your beloved KJV expresses Isaiah 7:14. "Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Who shall call her son's name Immanuel? A virgin, a.k.a. the Virgin Mary. Well, did she?

In Luke 1:31 & also Matt 1:21 she was told by the angel to name her son Jesus, which she did (Luke 2:21, Matt 1:25). So by what name did she call him? NOT Immanuel but Jesus!

Verdict: FALSE or UNFULFILLED prophecy. Take your pick.

[believeonetime]

@zorin85 . Isaiah 7:14.

King James Version (KJV).

14-Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isaiah 7:14.

New International Version (NIV).

14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

KJV=and shall call his [ NAME ] Immanuel. = KJV.Matthew 1-23=call his [ NAME ].

NIV=and will call [ HIM ] Immanuel.$

[believeonetime]

@zorin85 Why i'm so fixated on KJV this is just another reason why==

YOU stated = prophecy was NEVER fulfilled in Jesus as he was NEVER called Emmanuel. In fact, when he was born he was named Jesus (Luke 2'21 //

The VERSE says they will CALL HIS [ NAME ] EMMANUEL = NOT NAME THE CHILD EMMANUEL.

And yes the prophecy was AND IS BEING FULFILLED EVER DAY .

His [ NAME ] is JESUS and we believers call his NAME [ JESUS ] EMMANUEL.

READ THE VERSE.

IT'S NOT COMPLICATED.

2+2=4

[zorin85]

@bel: Do you realise Matthew deliberately MISQUOTED Isaiah 7:14?

Firstly, in its original Hebrew, Isaiah does NOT say 'virgin' but 'young woman' who may or may not be a virgin.

Secondly, Isaiah says that "[the virgin] will call him Immanuel". But Matt DISTORTS it by saying "they will call him ..." Why MANIPULATE God's word?

At any rate, this prophecy was NEVER fulfilled in Jesus as he was NEVER called Emmanuel. In fact, when he was born he was named Jesus (Luke 2:21), NOT Emmanuel. Why?

[believeonetime]

Matthew 1 -23-25-King James Version (KJV)

23=Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is,GOD WITH US. 25=And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

2+2=4+4=8+8=16 WHO WAS THE CHILD [ JESUS ] Now you may not believe the KJV or any other BUT the kjv is very clear Jesus is God and he [JESUS ] will judge us me and you one day soon HE IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD.

[believeonetime]

@zorin85 You stated=The God of the Bible is the Almighty, the Creator, the Most High, & NO one compares to Him. //

Do you believe the God of the KJB is the Almighty God ?