Anglicanism, Churchmanship and the Eucharist
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And yes, original Wesleyan Methodist theology DOES demand a High ecclesiology, and so we United Methodists are getting "high", especially since the official declarations in our 2004 General Conference on the Eucharist in the document titled "This Holy Mystery".
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@PsychoPunk1965 Methodism was originally a High Church movement within the Church of England (especially influenced by the Non-Jurors), hence their being called "Methodist" and "Sacramentalist". John Wesley's Sermon, "The Duty of Constant Communion" called for an almost daily participation in the Eucharist. The 19th century saw the Methodist Church get hijacked by Low Churchmanship, but a resurgence of Wesleyan scholarship tends to promote a High ecclesiology.
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@authorion My Anglican Priest used to be a United Methodist Church Minister. When he was in the Methodist Church, he practiced a high church Methodism. He wore the collar, chauseble, and had frequent communion. My understanding about Methodist clergy is that they are given a clerical collar that they can wear by choice, right? Although I am not a Methodist, I think it would be a good idea to move more toward a high church (because their theology demands it).
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@authorion Isn't their a high church movement in the United Methodist Church?
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I am an Anglican, but consider myself a "(broadly) high church Anglo-Catholic." I have a personal preference of a dignified service that combine elements of both low church and high church. On certain theological stance, I have a very "liberal Protestant" view (while liking the liturgical sensibilities of the Roman Catholic way of worship...
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@kejcolley Actually, we Methodists in the UMC tend to wear stoles in liturgical colors now, either with a black preaching gown or an actual alb, though I am one of the few who wears an amice and cincture. I only have one chasuble, though (a white one)...
Really good video, MapleAnglican but what's with the pronunciation of the names of the vestments? And it isn't an ankle length Surplice, it is an alb. Also the Surplice Nick is wearing isn't an English Surplice. English Surplices are much longer and have fuller sleeves.
AotearoaForever 1 week ago
@AotearoaForever Travis said it was a Surplice and its made from a thin cotton linen so I just called it that. You might be correct about the Surplice, but the sleeves are considerably longer than what Roman Catholic clerics wear here in North America.
Truthfully I know of several errors in this video that I leave in much like some authors live with mistakes in their books.
MapleAnglican 6 days ago
Second Part!!
I should also say that the Methodist Minister would also wear a black preaching scarf, but usually he or she would be in a clerical collar and their normal clothing. I am, by-the-way, an Anglican - from the Evangelical end :-)
kejcolley 1 month ago
@kejcolley We don't have a lot of Methodists left here in Canada since the 1920s when the Methodist Church of Canada united with (most of) the Presbyterian Church in Canada and formed the United Church. The only Methodists remaining are the Free Methodists that are the result of missionary work from the US since the 1960s.
MapleAnglican 1 month ago
A very interesting video, which shows up too some of the differences between the churches in the USA & here in England. Here (within the church) we rarely would use the 'high' 'low' definition - it would more-likely be 'Catholic' 'Broad' or 'Evangelical'. Also, the references to Methodists - here almost all Methodist Ministers if robed-up would wear Cassock, black preaching gown and hood (maybe preaching bands too) and only occasionally (usually at ecumenical services) would they wear an alb.
kejcolley 1 month ago
@kejcolley Here in Anglican Church of Canada, and in the Episcopal Church, the term (Anglo-)Catholic and Evangelical are usually only applied to the those who are "very high" or "very low" in their Churchmanship. For instance, Canon Travis rejects the term for himself why still considering himself "High".
MapleAnglican 1 month ago