Newsnight - Kelvin Mckenzie & Reveal - Heated Debate | "Shoot Them!" London Riots Aug 09 2011

Kelvin Mckenzie loses his cool and screams 'Shoot Them!' insisting that the police should use plastic bullets as well.

Priceless one-liners riddled throughout Kelvin Mackenzie's diatribe that are both provocative and shamelessly sensationalist. He does make good TV, the problem is by the end of his speech, one wishes to throw the TV out!

Kelvin Mckenzie - ex-Editor of The Sun
Reveal - British Rapper and young activist

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News & Politics

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• newsnight
• london
• riots
• kelvin
• mckenzie
• debate
• heated
• 09/08/2011
• shoot
• them
• tottenham
• reveal
• live

[7andomdud3]

@zaiyanzaiyan Reveal is clearly both misinformed and stupid, he sounds as though he has no grasp on the words coming out of his month

[TruthCauldron]

@7andomdud3 Reveal was educated at the University of London. SOAS. Maybe you have heard of it? It's the equivalent of an Ivy League University in America.

[tubehows4life]

The woman is even worse. Emotional and condescending. The "youth street guys" were better behaved than the aggressive, judgemental, set in their ways, narrow minded older two who probably think they're good citizens of society just because they dont physically loot.

[TheJay9002]

Kelvin mc Kenzie is a fucking scumbag. Acts like he's a man of the people. Which people? The people of Liverpool? World will be a better place when that poisonous cunt dies...

[Kieronoldham]

@TheJay9002 If people like you could get Hillsborough out of your heads for 2 seconds and allow yourselves to listen to what he says you may be enlightened and no: I'm not saying forget that tragedy. I'm saying do yourself a favour.

[jimbo1845]

@1000dude1000 That is the environment they have been brought up in. This is the outcome of trying to 'treat' criminals rather than having serious consequences for criminals. YOU are teaching them that there will be no consequences for breaking the law because 'punishing is not the way'. In fact, YOU are ENCOURAGING them to break the law by telling them they have done nothing wrong as it is instead 'society's' fault.

[jimbo1845]

@1000dude1000 What complete rubbish. The way you're talking would make people reading this think that the vandals are the 'victims' here. They are plainly not. The victims are the people who have had their shops looted and livelihoods destroyed. I do agree with you on the point that people are the product of their environment; the problem is that we have developed this 'blame culture' whereby nobody takes personal responsibility and instead blames others for their own problems.

[1000dude1000]

@jimbo1845 sorry that is simply incorrect. Case study and good comparator - America. Death penalty and much stricter rules. Hmmmmmmmmmm the crime right is muuuuuch higher. It is society that shapes pretty much every thought us humans ever have. Humans are prone to deterministic behaviour. We are not inherently good or bad. I know from personal experience children that were good then started being around "bad" (not law abiding) kids and followed suit. Punishing is not the way at ALL.

[TheLatchford]

@TheJay9002 Well said,im an evertonion and a seafarer.when im at sea and its my turn to the morning paper run,i say yes no problem, but will NOT BUY THE SUN they look at me as im nuts,cant they grasp it .THE SUN IS FOR MORONS

[jimbo1845]

@1000dude1000 These people are out for themselves and have absolutely no respect for anything or anyone and never will if we keep talking about 'understanding' them. That moron 'Reveal' claims that it is societies fault that they act like this because of the bankers behaved? What complete piss, the rest of the country saw what the bankers did but they didn't go out looting! The only way you can stop people acting like this is through tougher rules; they need to respect authority and the law.