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@OneCatholic You wrote: ".... They are, indeed, preventing the definition of marriage from changing. ...."
"Changing?" Not at all.
In the journal of the French skeptic and essayist Michel De Montaigne (1580-1581), documented Portuguese same-sex marriages celebrated in a nuptial mass in Rome:
".......They married one another, male to male, at Mass, with the same ceremonies with which we perform our marriages, read the same gospel service, and then went to bed and lived together. ..."
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@OneCatholic "Redefining marriage?" Not at all. Lakota chief Crazy Horse had one or two male spouse(s) and many other Native American nations also have had what we now call same-sex marriages. Ethnographers have documented this. Examples: Omahas, Zapotecs, Mohaves, Crow, Winnebago, Yuma and Timucua. Other cultures too. In 17th century Fukian Province China, same-sex marriages between gay men seem to have been common. And in West Africa, "woman marriage[s]" practiced by many nations.
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Hey man, that's cool with me! I understood the whole civil partnership thing was a way of "testing the waters" until they could work out the fine print.
If a non-religious man and woman who can't have children are allowed to be "married" then I see no real distinction between them and same sex couples...
PERSONALLY doesn't bother me what they call it, but yes I can certainly see how the distinction is unfair and insulting. Not really something I've given much thought!
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Here here! I am still waiting for the day my state allows my fiancee and I to marry. Patiently waiting. If we're kept waiting much longer, it may turn to rabidly waiting.
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@Starwars1442 "Control"? Homosexuals want to get married to each other...who the hell does that control? *raised eyebrow*
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@BionicDance Lol okay okay I admit defeat you win :) Thanks you made me smile, I really needed that.
I'm gay, brought up Catholic but now Atheist; I don't know if my feelings about gay marriage is just residue from my upbringing, but I DO see marriage as a religious sacrament!
I'm fine with gay couples being LEGALLY Married, but I don't see why they should be allowed to have their ceremony in a church, if that church doesn't agree with what they're doing!
Though it is possible that I just don't understand the issue well enough, or the difference between marriage and civil partnership...
meztini 1 week ago
@meztini Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but I'm ONLY arguing for legal marriage; if a church wants to stay bigoted as hell, let 'em...just give us the legal stuff and we'll cope, I say.
BionicDance 1 week ago
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Is there nothing similar to civil partnerships in America?? I took that as a given...
In England we just got "gay Christians" that want to get married in churches, and feminists that want to become Catholic priests... Altogether a bit mad if you ask me!
meztini 1 week ago
@meztini Well, here'z the thing...we believe in EQUALITY in this country; as such, we want the WORD "marriage", dammit. Even if the institution is different, calling it something else gets into some of that "separate but equal" stuff that didn't work with post-slavery black folks and it's not gonna work with the LGBT community; either it gets called "marriage" and is the same legally for everybody, or it goes away entirely.
BionicDance 1 week ago
Jumping into the piranha pool, I know, but how about people that are against same sex marriage not because they are against homosexuals but because they are against marriage?
MrZentuga 1 month ago
@MrZentuga What business is it of theirs?
Don't like marriage? Don't get married. Simple, simple.
BionicDance 1 month ago