I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm not looking for hate or arguments - try and be mature. I've seen the US government and some of my friends thinking this through - Osama bin Laden's death isn't the end of the battle, but it is a small victory, it is a rectification of the events of 9/11.
This is just my point of view, and one I hope everyone looks at and takes into consideration, because a bit of thought could go a long way in a situation like this. Best of luck in the future, America, and congratulations on your small victory last night.
No body cares, just stop it.
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@Zanryu He interprets the Qur'an as it is written. As long as it exists, people will interpret it that way (and have). I have much more to fear of than being crucified figuratively, as it is much a literal thing to do in in muslim countries for a great many things including blasphemy, apostacy and simply not being a muslim in some cases. Repeating the words written in a book is not and never will be twisting words. Fundamentalist Islam isnt the problem, it is the fundamentals of Islam.
IceJT15 9 months ago
@IceJT15 He interprets Islam in a violent way when he preaches it, however - Islam isn't meant to be destructive or violent - if you say that publicly, you'll be crucified (figuratively) for it. The way Osama preached was in a way to sway those who were already angry at the western world into aggression - and he did so well. He followed the laws of Islam, but he twisted the words of Islam. While it is, in effect, fundamentalist Islam, it is done in a way to promote terrorism.
Zanryu 9 months ago
@Zanryu All Osama preaches is fundamentalist Islam. His message is that of Islam.
IceJT15 9 months ago
@IceJT15 It's more than just violent religion though - their beliefs are what fueled the urge for terrorist action, but those were headed by Osama - he was the one who made their beliefs reach extremist levels - it's a clusterfuck of different outcomes for similar reasons with different means, there's no way to be sure. I'm leaning towards that there's going to be retaliation for the loss of their leader, that anger will fuel them to react quickly. But then it will become what it was before.
Zanryu 10 months ago
@Zanryu It could, but as I said all it would only be a catalyst, as long as the middle east holds the combination of low education and a violent religion there will always be terrorism, and so nothing changes by killing a figurehead in the long run.
IceJT15 10 months ago
@IceJT15 I understand what you're getting at, but there had been no launched attacks directly on the US public for a good while, even if some were planned. The loss of the man they followed for the past decade and then some could be enough to put those plans into action, or spur new plans - or even cause attacks without plans out of sheer desperation. The anger is and was already there, but the death of their symbol can increase what already exists, as with any emotion in any circumstances.
Zanryu 10 months ago
@Zanryu The people here are the kind that kill people over cartoons and burning their books, their anger will never die in a world of free speech and education, They were and always are wishing the downfall of western civilization, any attacks cannot be logically traced back to this event, as its not like the death will create outrage where there was none, the worst Osama's death could do (seeing as how he can hardly be called a martyr) is act as a catalyst to any attack already planned.
IceJT15 10 months ago
@IceJT15 This could be true, potentially - but if you put yourself in the shoes of an extremist terrorist following a man who has just been killed by your most hated enemy, I'm PRETTY sure you'd be hella pissed - and anger fuels revenge. If Al Qaeda could bring about 9/11 to prove a point, then imagine what they would do for vengeance.
Zanryu 10 months ago