@im4u2bs2 And always remember, I mean no offense, so please listen closely to the video. If you choose not to listen, I will know you do not have an open heart & an open mind, & I will pray dearly that you someday will open up to the church Christ established His 100% totality of truth. Its a topic I hold very dear, & know how dangerous it is to follow the ideas that reformers introducted into Christianity. Good learning, & God bless....
@im4u2bs2 why do you believe those gone before us are now disconnected from the rest of the Christian body? Doesnt make sense. Luckily for us Christians, death doesnt separate us. Sure we on earth cannot be in their saintly presence but those prayers carried to the saints like insense interceed on our behalf. I refer you to the following video by someone who was once anticatholic & I encourage you to really listen. Remove whatever basis your cult gives you now. watch?v=V6OwlfNwc9A&feature=relmfu
@im4u2bs2 Dear friend, theres no arrogance in truth, but you finally made a breakthrough somewhat in the right direction. I dont believe that the cult you belong to is good for your salvation if you cannot be certain of its entire truth. If you telling me I belong to a cult is acceptable for you to do, its acceptable for me to refer to you the same. I didnt take anything in no 180 direction. Paul calls for us to give & call on intercessions! Since you now understand the saints hear our prayers..
@catchzz dense skull ? all cults claim exclusive revelation from scripture, have their own bibles, twist scriptures, claim to be the only way to salvation.............you quote scripture like 1 tim 2:5 and then take to mean something 180* the other direction...........in spite of your mean spirited words I wish you well. once this type of arrogance enters in I can no longer be a part.........forever a servant of Christ
@im4u2bs2 I know all about the lost translations & I know about the Greek. Its one of the main reasons Im Catholic. The translation issue is a huge issue & one of the reasons we have so many problems w/ biblical translations. One of the reasons that the bible only concept is not from God for people like you to take & distort to your own destruction. Hence why we have the CHURCH to guide us as SHE is guided by the Holy Spirit protected from error. The CHURCH is the authority that BOUND scripture.
@im4u2bs2 Since you use the man-altered bible missing books from the "reformers" you are in no position to tell me, a person who has way more study in this, what is true. The saints hear our prayers, & yes they go through the Son, THAT IS what I have been trying to get through your dense skull! Do you think I have not researched this? Do you pray for anyone else? If you do, shame on you, bc you just disobeyed the logic you are using on me!
@im4u2bs2 No Catholic prays TO Mary, they pray THROUGH her to take our prayers (interceed) to Her Son. No Catholic worships Mary, Ive never known anyone to worship Mary. Educate urself so u know the difference btw honor/worship. Your elementary understanding of scripture will not lead you to truth. The Communion of Saints means those who have gone before us are still a member of the 1 body of Christ w/ us. The Body of Christ is ALWAYS aware of its other parts. Mary is part of our spritual body.
@catchzz download and install e-sword from the internet..........gives the english and the original greek............very usefull in finding the lost meanings of greek words when translated to our pitiful english language
@catchzz You will never find a place in your bible (with more books) where it says to pray to mortals. It says that obviously the saints will hear the prayers in revelation - but the prayers are to God thru his Son. Its your soul. It was mans disobedience to what God said that caused our spiritual death, It wont be mans disobedience to what God recorded in the Scripture which will bring him salvation. man cant save man....in Christs love I say this.
@im4u2bs2 You are not listening. I already gave you a verse of Paul teaching intercessory prayer. Its called reading AHEAD look to the verses PRIOR to 1 Tim 2:5! He urges prayers, INTERCESSIONS, etc for ALL. Paul appeals for mediation from others besides Christ. I can pray for u to Jesus to mediate to God the Father, whom Jesus is the ONE mediator. Meaning if He is the ONE mediator, others are subordinate mediators. Intercessory prayer is NOT praying TO, its asking for subsequent prayers to God.
@im4u2bs2 And always remember, I mean no offense, so please listen closely to the video. If you choose not to listen, I will know you do not have an open heart & an open mind, & I will pray dearly that you someday will open up to the church Christ established His 100% totality of truth. Its a topic I hold very dear, & know how dangerous it is to follow the ideas that reformers introducted into Christianity. Good learning, & God bless....
catchzz 1 month ago
@im4u2bs2 why do you believe those gone before us are now disconnected from the rest of the Christian body? Doesnt make sense. Luckily for us Christians, death doesnt separate us. Sure we on earth cannot be in their saintly presence but those prayers carried to the saints like insense interceed on our behalf. I refer you to the following video by someone who was once anticatholic & I encourage you to really listen. Remove whatever basis your cult gives you now. watch?v=V6OwlfNwc9A&feature=relmfu
catchzz 1 month ago
@im4u2bs2 Dear friend, theres no arrogance in truth, but you finally made a breakthrough somewhat in the right direction. I dont believe that the cult you belong to is good for your salvation if you cannot be certain of its entire truth. If you telling me I belong to a cult is acceptable for you to do, its acceptable for me to refer to you the same. I didnt take anything in no 180 direction. Paul calls for us to give & call on intercessions! Since you now understand the saints hear our prayers..
catchzz 1 month ago
@catchzz dense skull ? all cults claim exclusive revelation from scripture, have their own bibles, twist scriptures, claim to be the only way to salvation.............you quote scripture like 1 tim 2:5 and then take to mean something 180* the other direction...........in spite of your mean spirited words I wish you well. once this type of arrogance enters in I can no longer be a part.........forever a servant of Christ
im4u2bs2 1 month ago
@im4u2bs2 I know all about the lost translations & I know about the Greek. Its one of the main reasons Im Catholic. The translation issue is a huge issue & one of the reasons we have so many problems w/ biblical translations. One of the reasons that the bible only concept is not from God for people like you to take & distort to your own destruction. Hence why we have the CHURCH to guide us as SHE is guided by the Holy Spirit protected from error. The CHURCH is the authority that BOUND scripture.
catchzz 1 month ago
@im4u2bs2 Since you use the man-altered bible missing books from the "reformers" you are in no position to tell me, a person who has way more study in this, what is true. The saints hear our prayers, & yes they go through the Son, THAT IS what I have been trying to get through your dense skull! Do you think I have not researched this? Do you pray for anyone else? If you do, shame on you, bc you just disobeyed the logic you are using on me!
catchzz 1 month ago
@im4u2bs2 No Catholic prays TO Mary, they pray THROUGH her to take our prayers (interceed) to Her Son. No Catholic worships Mary, Ive never known anyone to worship Mary. Educate urself so u know the difference btw honor/worship. Your elementary understanding of scripture will not lead you to truth. The Communion of Saints means those who have gone before us are still a member of the 1 body of Christ w/ us. The Body of Christ is ALWAYS aware of its other parts. Mary is part of our spritual body.
catchzz 1 month ago
@catchzz download and install e-sword from the internet..........gives the english and the original greek............very usefull in finding the lost meanings of greek words when translated to our pitiful english language
im4u2bs2 1 month ago
@catchzz You will never find a place in your bible (with more books) where it says to pray to mortals. It says that obviously the saints will hear the prayers in revelation - but the prayers are to God thru his Son. Its your soul. It was mans disobedience to what God said that caused our spiritual death, It wont be mans disobedience to what God recorded in the Scripture which will bring him salvation. man cant save man....in Christs love I say this.
im4u2bs2 1 month ago
@im4u2bs2 You are not listening. I already gave you a verse of Paul teaching intercessory prayer. Its called reading AHEAD look to the verses PRIOR to 1 Tim 2:5! He urges prayers, INTERCESSIONS, etc for ALL. Paul appeals for mediation from others besides Christ. I can pray for u to Jesus to mediate to God the Father, whom Jesus is the ONE mediator. Meaning if He is the ONE mediator, others are subordinate mediators. Intercessory prayer is NOT praying TO, its asking for subsequent prayers to God.
catchzz 1 month ago