Reformed theology- Only Calvinists are going to heaven?

If one follows the logic of Calvinism to it's conclusion, it would seem Biblically true that only Calvinists are going to heaven... is this the case?

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[apologeticsman]

If we are created in God's image, & that is not a physical image, then it must be either an emotional or spiritual image. If God as our creator made a being in His image, then we must share some of the basic attributes of God. I would say that because of the fall, we do not share His holiness or perfection, we are not omnipresent, omnipotent or omniscient, so what is left? I would say that as God is capable of anger, so are we; of joy, so are we, of sadness, so are we, of choices, so are we, etc

[apologeticsman]

@RedBeetle Did you choose to write this comment? The Bible I read says that God is incapable of lying, so that at least in one way is proof that God is not 100% sovereign in every possible way. The issue of free will or free choice is paramount to the existence of man. In what way is man set apart from the animals? Is it just that we are capable of understanding more, or is it something else? What does it mean to be created in the image of God? Is it a physical image, or something else? cont-

[apologeticsman]

he falls away who forsakes the word of God, who extinguishes its light, who deprives himself of the taste of the heavens or gift, who relinquishes the participation of the Spirit. Now this is wholly to renounce God. We now see whom he excluded from the hope of pardon, even the apostates who alienated themselves from the Gospel of Christ, which they had previously embraced, and from the grace of God; and this happens to no one but to him who sins against the Holy Spirit

[RedBeetle]

You are merely assuming human free will, but at no point have you ever demonstrated this from Scripture. Your human philosophy is not part of the Bible's teaching. You don't seem smart enought to realize that the question is not "Do people choose?"

The question is "Are the choices people make determined by God?"

Ephesians 1:11 asserts that they are, but you unBiblical philosophy will not have any of that.

[apologeticsman]

thanks for that love "brother". You completely miss the point. If man could not choose who to serve, there would be NO POINT in making the statement. Also, the Bible was not written in English, it was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, and I seriously doubt you know as much about any of those languages as I do. You still have not addressed the points in THIS video, and you obviously can not. Your assertion is like me saying to a man painted into a corner, "choose to not walk on the paint"

[RedBeetle]

@apologeticsman,

After eleven months, you still do not understand basic English grammar. You should have spent that time in study. Your pathetic attempt to smuggle in free will simply doesn't work. The verse is in the imperative mood, and so it tells us ONLY what a man SHOULD do, not what a man CAN do. Ephesians 1:11 logically implies that man's will is determined.

Hey, Erasmus could never show Luther a single verse that implied human free will either--and that was about 500 years ago.

[apologeticsman]

you ignored the point I was making in this video, i.e. that since you say Calvinism is Christianity, i.e. the truth, & that is is the "things of God" & since the natural man ( the man that is unregenerate) can not receive (understand, perceive) the things of God, that means that only Calvinists are saved. If I view Calvinism as foolishness, as I do, then I am a natural man, and since Calvinism is true, I am lost. The only way for me to be saved then would be for God to show me that it is true

[apologeticsman]

If I am commanded to make a choice, then by that very definition I have to chose. God told them that SINCE it seemed evil to serve the Lord (i.e. they were exercising free will to think of God as evil) then they had to choose another god. But, Joshuah says, "me and my house will serve the Lord" thus showing that he was exercising his free will and choosing to serve the Lord rather than the false gods. Why offer a choice to people at all, if they are determined beforehand to make a choice?

[apologeticsman]

"But the natural man does not welcome what comes from God's Spirit, because it is foolishness to him; he is not able to know it since it is evaluated spiritually." Seems pretty elementary, people who reject God's spirit remain unchanged, but those who welcome Him have their understanding opened. You have to understand that the Holy Spirit is drawing ALL men unto Jesus, therefore if some refuse the Holy Spirit, it is not God's fault, but man's

[Glorthac]

What do you believe is the correct interpretation of 1 Cor 2:14?