Dawkins Stumped?

This should hopefully prove, once and for all, that Dawkins' famous pause was nothing to do with him not knowing the answer. I'm sure, now that I've disproven this claim creationists will never use it ever again, right?...Right?...Well one can dream.

I give two specific processes that increase the information content in the genome (whatever that means), taken directly from "The Blind Watchmaker". Obviously if Dawkins knew of these processes 11 years before the interview he would have known, and said, them during the it.

Although Dawkins didn't give specific examples there have been observations that equate to more or less the same result. Such as with gene duplication in yeast:

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/15/8/931.pdf

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[stephen7796]

It doesnt matter, you cant have something evolve that doesnt exist. god still had to create the universe!!

[Impaler1815]

@stephen7796 If anything that exists has to have been created, who created God? God supposedly exists doesn't he?

[SmokiSounds]

@Impaler1815 If that's the bottomline of your argument it is hilarious.

The very BASIC presupposition when discussing God is His ETERNAL NATURE. Not infinite, which implies a beginning, but eternal - no beginning, no end. God always has been, always is and always will be.

Hard to grasp with your superficial scientific mind?

[Impaler1815]

@SmokiSounds In other words not everything that exists needs a creator. Thank you for reenforcing my point.

[SmokiSounds]

@Impaler1815 Everything within our material existence does, yes. That's the cause-effect rule, the very foundation of any scientific experiment, of any conversation, of any action. Any action has a result, and any action is a result of a previous action.

But you equate God, a SUPERnatural deity (=non material, transcendant) to material objects. A crucial and very basic mistake.

Your point isn't reinforced, it is refuted by logical analysis.

[Impaler1815]

@SmokiSounds Claiming God's supernatural doesn't change anything. He still has all the attributes of material objects you claim require a creator: Existence and complexity. If God can exist forever, so can energy. The first cause argument never addresses that.

[WeedGreenPowerRanger]

Looks like the comment page was hit by the creationist bot....

[snakeguy76]

Gene duplication is not the same as replication. it is actualy having two copies of the same gene at different loci in the genome. One gene keeps its normal function and another is free to accumilate mutations. Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of biology would know this process.

[awdat]

YOUR VOICE IS AWFUL - YOU SOUND LIKE A COMPUTER ROBOT - COMPLETELY UNHUMAN

[gregrutz]

@Elhardt Dawkins was stumped because the question is so fucked up. Darwin didn't even know about mutations or DNA when he showed how evolution works.

Any change in the DNA is ''New Information"

[gregrutz]

@stephen7796 Evolution has noting to do with God or Atheists. Sorry it proves your religion wrong.

[Impaler1815]

@Elhardt Dawkins didn't give an example, and considering he knew examples the only logical conclusion is that there was another reason for him pausing. Consider as well that the creationists won't release any of the footage from between cuts that they say exists, and that they claim proves their point. What are they hiding?