Friedrich von Hayek a Fascist?

Hogan presents an analysis of Friedrich von Hayek based on an article by Professor Gregg Grandin (Yale & NYU) that appeared in Counterpunch (11/17/06).

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[zsylvana]

Vienna Economics Institute celebrated its centennial,they invited,as their keynote speaker,my father John K Galbraith.The leading economists of the Austrian school-- including Hayek and Haberler returned for the occasion.My father took a moment to reflect on the economic triumphs Austria since the war,which,he said,"would not have been possible without the contribution of these men"They nodded-briefly-until it dawned on them what he meant.They all left the country in the 1930s

James Galbraith

[MrReco12]

@goPistons06

He supported Augusto Pinochet who was a totalitarian fascist who brutally tortured his political opponents.

[gulbirk]

To answer the title, yes, yes indeed. He states that he would ""rather preferr a liberal (economic liberalism) dictatorship over a democracy wtihout liberalism""

Same with Milton and the entire frikin Chicago school of "How to be fucked by corporations" economics.

I honestly dont think these people have a problem with fascism nor democracy. They claim that they think its unfair for someone to decide over someone else, but thats only when they are not the ones deciding.

[rsingh1492]

@11thsockpuppet i think that austrians who support not looking to math and data at all are too radical and don't recognize the benefits of research. also, as an economist myself, I will say that the economics profession is really one that might as well just be statistical; econometrics plays too big of a role. i think if you find a balance, which i think informed austrians would support, thats the best way. a theory shouldn't just come out of data, as it's ever changing.

[rsingh1492]

@IcedEarth426 not sure why free trade's a bad thing there buddy...i'd guess you'd like cheaper stuff?

[acepl78]

@BobGeorgeAU Keynes is Marx. have you actually read Keynes' "General theory..."? I did and I say Keynesianism is not captalism. Capitalism is - simply put - freedom to choose what to do with your wealth (not only money). Keynes was great advocate of high taxation and high inflation (which is also a HUGE tax) in exchange for gov't spending to reduce unemployment. And I - like Keynes - mean gov't when using this word. So don't fool yourself: Keynes is socialism in nice clothes.

[nrekk]

3:10 idiot, he mean't the temporary economic shock that did take place when they lifted control over prices. Just shows how much you know about what you're talking

[BobGeorgeAU]

Hayek and Keynes were colleagues. Keynes was a big fan of "The Road to Serfdom". They had some criticisms of each other but generally respected each other and praised each other's works. People forget that Keynes was a free market economists, as economists generally are. There are degrees of that. Some are very liberal (laissez-faire) like Hayek, others are not quite so like Keynes. But it says a lot that today the extremes are Keynes and Hayek not Smith and Marx. All economics is capitalism.

[johnsonfromwisconsin]

So, Hayek made a mistake with what he didn't know about Pinochet -as high profile people involved in philophy often do. Looking at Hayek's overall ideas about totalitarianism and the anti-capital policies of facism, you have to ignore a lot of it to come to the strange conclusion that Hayek was a facist (pretty much everything besides Pinocet). But of course, Keynesianism "intellectualism" and "scientific methodology" is about ignoring things that don't fit your worldview.

[acepl78]

"The theory of aggregate production that is the goal of the following book can be much more easily applied to the conditions of a totalitarian state than the theory of the production and distribution of a given output turned out under the conditions of free competition and of a considerable degree of laissez-faire" - those are the words of Keynes himself in german edition of his "general theory".

FYI: fascism is where gov't tells people what to do and punish them if thy don't.

[utubehayter]

@Malthus0

Take a hint, this franks2732 does not know ANYTHING about Austrian economics.. and let it go. Arguing with idiots is fun.. but this is just torture and declarations falsehoods and ..ah the moronity!