Second American Revolution: Jay Grimstead (1 of 3)

Question: Wouldn't a Christian Republic run according to God's Law become oppressive to non-Christians?

Jay Grimstead: God has given great wisdom to all mankind on how to run life; how to families; how to run governments; how to have just courts and just laws -- in the Bible. The Bible is the Owner's Manual that comes with the machine. He certainly knows better than all of us put together what makes us run well and what would make a good society and what could make a prosperous joyful, peaceful, orderly society. We believe that He has given us these laws in the Bible. We also can prove from looking at history that this already worked marvelously wherever they seriously attempted it. It worked in Geneva, in Scotland and to a certain degree in England. It worked marvelously here in America in the 1600, 1700s and even into the early 1800s.

When saying that America did a great job, I don't mean that there were not problems. It's not that we want to duplicate everything they did. We would want to eliminate slavery right from the beginning. It should have been done at the Constitution. It was our very bad mistake. There is no excuse for that. It needs to be repented of. But compared with any other society in history, there has never been such freedom for blacks, whites or women in the world as we had here. The Biblically thinking women, blacks, Indians, Chinese, Jews -- anybody who would be considered an ethnic group -- say the same thing. It's not the clear thinking biblical people in those groups who would have trouble with this.

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[AwakeningShift]

You can't force a peaceful society on people if you're pointing guns at them, and forcing your religion on them.

I'm a new convert to Christianity, but this I can not condone.

[jcr4runner]

And this is not condoning that. You need to listen more carefully.

[seyoumeye]

Yes. it did in fact worked everywhere(Geneva, Scotland, England in America), as it has also permitted many to steal land from the indigenous; to enrich in gold and own assets and properties that is now enslaving the same human under the corporate world.

Honestly, MANY religions are run by very very bad people who suffer schizophrenia madness but...the angelic and alien fairy tale require further investigation.

[jcr4runner]

Religious people often contradict the morality of their own religion. That just proves these people were hypocrites -- it does nothing to tarnish the ideal. In fact, even you use the ideal of Christian morality to construct an argument against them!

[gusb232]

Why do we need to Repent for slavery if it is not a sin?

If we want run Government from the direct instruction of the Laws of the Bible, Then we need to admend the Bible to make slavery a sin.

How far should we carry out this logic?

Also Civil rights do not depend on religious beliefs, Freedom does NOT require Faith.

Every Christain should realize that Government involvement in matters of religion tends to end in the restraint of religion.

[jcr4runner]

Kidnapping is a sin.

[kilbsner]

That's my Uncle Jay!!! (Not my real uncle, just a dear friend for all my life.)

[hardmod777]

@AwakeningShift - Many States & the Federal government GOT their laws from the Bible. This is not forcing Christianity on anyone. IT worked in Scotland, England, Scandinavia, and early America.

[rob18767]

You either have the constitution or you don't (freedom of speech and religion).

If you don't then you are no longer an American.

[seyoumeye]

Maybe, but I have tried to be a "simple observer" of the reality that is enfolding around us. I think we have complicated our life more than the discriminated indigenous that leave in harmony with nature.

In my opinion, there is much more things to learn from the few politically, economically and theocratically unspoiled indigenous instead of this life-style dictated by psychopath corporate and religion?

[MuslimNinjaAssassin]

He did say all Biblic... whatever he said. Are we Counlderd that?

[PobjedaIstine]

What about muslims?

[PWitness]

Cool! How do you know him?