Zen Master Pohwa: In The Beginning part 1

Zen Master Pohwa gives a Dharma talk about "In The Beginning"

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[ZenLordOne]

"After the beginning, everything became a mess.

Buddha and sentient beings wrestled in the mud.

God and sinners were all mixed up. So, I am not

asking about 'after the beginning.' Tell me something

about 'before the beginning.'"

Zen Master Pohwa replied:

"Before the donkey was finished, the horse arrived."

[etphonehome2915]

I bet Jesus would always say God is the center no matter what. This is not about the mind only, but about the fact that not even a zen master can see through reality. For buddha, everything was the concept of the mind. But even Buddha could not see everything, do everything hear everything. One buddha - everything. If you are everything you are God. It is that simple. Did buddha say that he would become everything, that his will would rule everything? No but his teachings was to be.

[etphonehome2915]

I have never heard of zen teachings which included God.

[wonhyoluv]

Where there is no "I" nor "You," then what/who is listening to this dharma, and what/who is talking [teaching] this dharma without taking/making any mistake. :)

[wonhyoluv]

I asked him to pinched me and ask [the] same question, and he pinched my arm while asking, "Are you hurting or God?" I said, "Ouch, ouch!" Mountains after mountains, cages after cages, all the monkeys are crying, every day, every moment. Even though you are saying my center is God's center, it is still covered with many mountains. These mountains are called [something] cage. The center never says center, the center never understands center. I cannot say "I," you cannot see "You." ...

[wonhyoluv]

And also we know that God is within us. So, our center in us is the center of God, center of the world, and center of all beings and everything single thing you can describe or not describe. If it [this] is so, it is your day or God's day? I met a practitioner who was working so hard, and I asked, "Are you working so hard?" He replied, "I am not working, only God is working." So I pinched his arm and I asked at this moment, "Is God hurting or are you hurting?" He replied, "My God hurts."

[wonhyoluv]

Good morning. As soon as a shrimp jumped out of the ocean, a flying hawk caught and ate [it]. But still many people are saying it is nascent as Poseidon was so hungry. The base [foundations] of our practice includes many kinds of meditation [practices] and religious prayers and chantings. Most already know that every single moment is fully blessed by God. And every single moment is very perfect when our flesh sin[s] [it] cannot do anything by itself, only God can do [it]. Continued...

[JO911B]

cripes

[TheChimorin]

It would be very nice with EN subtitles...

[kasuskasus]

"Ouch, ouch..."

This guy is truly enlightened.

[elevatedm]

hahaha wow this is a classic