Although the meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls matches perfectly with all the books of the Old Testament, minus Esther, being that it's missing from the Dead Sea Scrolls, Muslims believe corruption must have happened AFTER the writing of the Quran being that the Quran tells Christians and Jews they have no ground to stand upon unless they stand firm upon the Torah and the Injil (basically, the Bible), plus the fact that the Quran says Muslims are to come to those who have read the previous/before scriptures (The Bible) IF the Muslim is in doubt about the Quran. But, inspite of the reality of the Dead Sea Scrolls, inspite of the Qur'an saying it's a "confirmation and reminder of that which went before it (The Bible), and, that it, the Quran, can be verified WITH the Torah by a child of Israel being that the Torah is not only LIKE the Qur'an, but LIKE the Quran the Torah is "both guidance and light", well, MANY Muslims believe that Allah's Word (the Bible) has still been corrupted. But, IF it's been corrupted, how did it get corrupted inspite of the fact that the Qur'an says Allah's Word CAN'T be corrupted? Was it corrupted by the will of Allah, or, was Allah unable to keep his word, the Bible, from BEING corrupted?
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Again, I can see why you have joined the Shia, and became "Qur'an Only".
DragonDriver100 5 months ago
@eatingeatingeating
Didn't call the Books of God a pile of poo? IF Jesus never went to the cross (like the "clear signs" say), and, IF to believe Jesus is not only God, but, is God's Son, and THAT is the "worst of sins" (like the "clear signsw" say), then how can the Bible NOT be a pile of poo IF the Qur'an is true? Not ONLY a pile of poo, but, very dangerous poo if one obeys Qur'an 5:68 and stands FIRM upon the Bible? How? Well, I'd never expect you to clearly answer me here, anyway.
DragonDriver100 5 months ago
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Right, God DOES leave some to stray, it sounds, IF you read the Injil. And, guess what? IF you, a Muslim, are lost for all eternity DUE to God leading you to stray, then, guess what? Muslims ARE, in away, RIGHT when they say we "all believe in the same god". But, the Injil has scriptures within that don't make sense IF God is like Allah when it comes to eternal damnation.
DragonDriver100 5 months ago
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You won't get any arguement that God in the Injil does His own kind of "guiding on and off the right path as He pleases". The thing in, in the Qur'an, it sounds like it's forever.
DragonDriver100 5 months ago
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You have just proven to all here that YOU are the liar by saying ""people of the Book' isn't found in the 9:29". ANYone who wants proof of this can go to Qur'an 9:29 and see that YOU are the one who is taqqiya-ing (lying for Allah).
DragonDriver100 5 months ago
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I see you have become a "Qur'an Only" Muslim like I predicted. Did you know that, after Muslims are done with talking with me, they even reject the SAHIH Bukhari Hadiths? They still hang onto the "clear signs handed down" that say they confirm what Muslims claim to be corrupted (the Bible).
ItsAmadWorld2 5 months ago
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You have just lied. In SOME English versions of the Qur'an it IS "People of the Book" (or, "People of the Scripture"). And, either way, it MEANS Jews and Christians. HOW you can so blatantly lie is proof that you really truly are a Muslim performing Jihad of the Pen. I think i'll put a block on you now to keep you from filling my threads up with more Muslim lies that waste people's time. Face it, lies waste time, O slave of the deceiver.
ItsAmadWorld2 5 months ago
@eatingeatingeating
So, Allah means "my god"? You sure?
ItsAmadWorld2 5 months ago
@ItsAmadWorld2 As for the word "election," or "elect," (comes from the Greek word eklectos and occurs about 25 times NT), which also implies God leaves some to stray, shows how Quran confirms debates in Bible e.g. John 13:18, Eph. 1:4, 1 Tim. 5:21. So desist in deception, especially where Qur'an and Bible are One.
eatingeatingeating 5 months ago
@ItsAmadWorld2 The English "predestination" is translated from the Greek word proorizo which means to predetermine, decide beforehand. It occurs six times in NT, each time demonstrating that God is the one who is foreordaining and bringing about certain events: Acts 4:28, Rom. 8:29, Rom. 8:30, 1 Cor. 2:7, Eph. 1:5, Eph. 1:11
eatingeatingeating 5 months ago