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Good Learner, Bad Learner

How to learn, and not learn, to speak Japanese  
 
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TheGaslightHorror (6 months ago) Show Hide
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tanoki, you are utterly, utterly missing the point. This is a video which indicates the right attitude to learning.
FYI the guy who posted this (appearing as bad learner) is sickeningly fluent, and I am sure, well aware of any small mistakes the good learner makes.
magustg1 (7 months ago) Show Hide
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Could you be any more unnecessarily pedantic?
PoweredButchZ (8 months ago) Show Hide
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Sounded like "ja" to me.

I've found the best ways to learn Japanese are the ones that keep you producing a lot of new output, written and spoken. If you output newly learned Japanese all the time then it doesn't matter what anybody says about your methods. You're doing alright. Forget the video if it distracts from the point. The point is that the good learner is outputting what he's heard or read and the bad learner is not. For example, one thing he could do is speak along with his kanji book.
tanoki1 (10 months ago) Show Hide
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3:59 The Good Learner misreads pretty basic kanji (yuuyake, or sunset). It is not a terrible mistake, since the word he mistook it for—yuuhi—also means sunset, but then he acts stupid again and tries to take the model ice cream.

4:07 It is strange to refer to a model ice cream as kakkou ii (cool).

4:35 This konnichiwa to the kids (I assume they are kids) in the back is okay, but again, too much of the stupid foreigner routine gets old fast.
hapsap (9 months ago) Show Hide
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Mind you this is not an educational video.
It's made to show you how to act in Japan and how not to Act once you're there to study.
Its the thought that counts not the details.

So relax and enjoy.
tanoki1 (10 months ago) Show Hide
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3:46 The Good Learners Japanese fizzles out here. He starts by saying Moshi byouki nattara (If I get sick), and you would expect him to follow with something like its going to be your fault, but instead, his Japanese disintegrates into babble. Who knows what he said.

3:55 This stupid foreigner routine gets old fast. You dont have to be act the fool to be liked.
tanoki1 (10 months ago) Show Hide
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2:22 Why does the Good Learner feel the need to act like a retard?

2:33 This is a painfully unnatural exchange.

2:47 The Good Learner responds to his girlfriends (?) suggestion that his shoes are big by saying, Sanjuu senchi dake yo. (Theyre just 30 cm.) The problem is, he is using feminine language. He should have said Sanjuu senchi dake da yo. This will quickly become a habit.

3:10 Again, the nan tte iu attack.
tanoki1 (10 months ago) Show Hide
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2:00 I especially dislike this part. First, the Good Learner uses his favorite line Nani, kore? (What is this?) He then tries to say the word Ika (squid), but ends up saying Ii ka? (Okay, so heres the deal.) Ika is a short i and rises in pitch. His accent is wrong, which causes him to say something completely different than what he intended. He also believes that the idea of a squid somehow scares Japanese kids. It doesnt. Theyre not American. They eat these things regularly.
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1:41 Isou nantoka. Who knows what he was trying to say here. Nantoka is a useful word, but it can also be a crutch. The Good Learner cant read complete sentences.

1:44 I had to search this book to figure out what he was trying to say. He is trying to say Mongen, nanji? (When is your curfew?) The word mongen, or curfew, rises and then falls in pitch. His accent is wrong.

1:46 Great book. Study this.
tanoki1 (10 months ago) Show Hide
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1:28 The Good Learner cant read the word for kindergarten (youchien). Buy a dictionary.

1:32 There is nothing wrong with reading these types of Japan-related English-language books as long as you are balancing them with books written in Japanese.

1:33 The Good Learner has to confirm that ringo means apple. Basic Japanese vocabulary.

1:40 Again, ossan/drunk. Or maybe this is his samurai impersonation. Either way, it is not cute or funny.

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