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A French film has recently tried to build a case for cover-ups and deception, implying that a US submarine sank the Kursk. That's easy to do, but I now don't believe it can be true. I had tried to keep an open mind when beginning to sift through masses of material on the internet about this disaster. Piecing together real data from here and there and adding a few new conclusions of my own, I hope that what I came up with can maybe help counter some of the widespread confusion and outright lies about this in whoever takes time to watch the whole video. Wild theories that aren't based on anything other than suspicion that simply try to ignore the real forensic evidence and verified events don't help anyone. All they do is increase mistrust and we really have enough of that already.

What really must have happened becomes clearer when all the pieces of the puzzle fit together at the end.

I'm hoping to translate this into Russian, if I can find time, where there is more interest in the subject for obvious reasons and where many people actually believe that a US submarine sank the Kursk for some of the reasons mentioned in the video. These people would be my main intended audience. Hopefully a Google translation would still let the main points come across. Do you think it's convincing and interesting enough to do it? Any help, comments or suggestions re this would be appreciated. Sorry, I had to cut some frames to 9 seconds, it was the only way to keep it from blowing out even further due to the complexity. Any non-classified photos of the visit of the subs in Brest or Wilhelmshaven in 2000 would also be great to have.

I didn't have enough time to mention the CIA director's visit to Moscow at the time, calls between Presidents Clinton and Putin, who had only been in office for six months at the time, and the matter of the NATO communications bouy that had been seen floating by some of the 30 odd vessels in the Russian naval exercise before it was pulled in again. I also hadn't gone into the radiation aspects of the story - yes, the Kursk had not one but two nuclear reactors, both, thankfully, undamaged in the explosions, otherwise this disaster could have been far, far worse. The whole story is too complicated for only 18 minutes, but I concentrated on the so-called "evidence" allegedly "proving" involvement of the US submarine because this in particular still causes so much mistrust and pain, particularly among the relatives of the lost crew. I don't think the US Navy likes to be falsely accused either.

Please contact me re any possible issues re photos used, I quoted all sources as accurately as possible at the time of sourcing although many were available from multiple sources. I do not claim ownership of these.




For my regulars:
There is of course one other explanation, let's call it theory number twenty, something else that can cut through 2.5" steel like butter and then explodes, which explains my initial interest in that mysterious hole in the Kursk to those following my channel, but let's stick to more conventional forensic evidence that more people can relate to. Hardly anyone understands the backwards causality of CMT yet anyway...

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  • Hi, if you mean that strange photo of what was supposed to be the Kursk at the bottom with no hole where it was later seen, I agree, it must be faked. There wasn't enough light 108 meters below the surface for it to look like that. thanks for commenting. Tom

  • Thanks for commenting. I agree, it's just too weird imagining one coud do that. A drilling torpedo sure sounds like something from a James Bond film. It would be nice to get a reply from the salvage company to settle the question of what casued that hole. Cheers, Tom

  • Hi and thanks for commenting. The evidence is pretty conclusive, although what caused the hole and that dent are still not entirely resolved (there need to be some answers from the salvage company), but it just doesn't look like the Memphis could have done it. That just doesn't add up. Cheers, Tom

  • I'm still not convinced about what made that hole, but believe Memphis would have been sent to drydock to repair damage at Haakonsvern, had she collided. The Memphis had not entered the drydock from the available information. Why would the first explosion have occurred immediately after the Pjotr Veliky gave permission to fire the dummy torpedo, just after receiving the request from the Kursk? That doesn't fit with any collision scenario. Cheers, Tom

  • Hi, I agree, the Kursk was huge and considering the thickness of the outer hull at 2.5 inches, the diameter of the hole and the size of the dent are just too big. Thanks for commenting. Tom

  • Hi and thanks for commenting. That's interesting. With the phenomenal velocity that the Shkval can reach under water, does that mean you don't really need DU? It would be very interesting to find out what specific damage these things can do (but of course that would be impossible to get) and if that includes such wide dents in solid steel as the one around that mysterious hole. Cheers, Tom

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  • No torpedo can punch a hole or cut it so perfect like that but i have a clue maybe was the torpedo on james bond movie tomorow never dies is was like drill torpedo lmao

  • torpedoes no longer need to use contact mechanisms

  • Thanks for making this video! I also saw that French film with the "alternate" theories on Kursk and didn't really know what to believe. Before, I wasn't sure if it was a load of bunk or not, now after seeing your arguments I'm pretty sure it was! :-)

  • Say whatever you want, i will always believe that USA sank Kursk. Its already proved that Mephis and Toledo were in that region were Kursk was tested and after everything, USS memphis, had to stop at norway ports for a repair(later they said, that was a mistake, they said food , not repair- USA). Because USA memphis hit Kursk by accident with its bottom, Kursk decided to destroy intruder. Then USS toledo decided to save their men and shot kursk- lucky shot- Boom no kursk, Putin did a coverup,GJ!

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