@LeComte13 Yes I have done Uechi Ryu. There is no problem about that. I said we DO change from open hand to closed hand in Mutudi kata. It is actually normal in any Okinawan Karate kata to change from closed to open and open to closed. Cheers.
Also it is not a version of Sanchin, although it looks like it. It technically isn't even kata in the karate sense of the wordwhich is confusing to the karateka watching it. Everything about Mutudi practice is actually the exact opp. of sanchin practice. Imagine just doing front kicks up and down the floor...this is more like what you see here in Motobu Udundi. It is a practice of the Mutudi Kamae, not necessarily kata. Some will even change from closed to open within the same kata. Cheers.
@sweetfly66 Its a demo... There is no reason. They are simply showing the different techniques of the system. When practicing iaido (sword) kata in demo, you'll see some doing the same kata right handed and some doing it left handed simultaneously. In kobudo, you'll see the same kata done by everyone but some are using a bo, some an eku, some even a yari or naginata. The idea behind udundi is that all of the principles are the same regardless of what weapon/ lack of weaponry is being used.
@sweetfly66 Mutudi ichi is closed hand, Mutudi ni is open hand. Otherwise they are the same kata. Some are doing one, some the other. What is being shown is the complexity of Okinawan Budo. With its diverse history of influences, even the most basic techniques can change form and become something advanced. As an example, with regard to these forms, there is hardly a single "punch" being thrown!" It is mostly tuidi and nage/ kuzushi waza.
@robertmrivers .... I studied Uechi Ryu with Charles Earle in Providence , RI. The Sanchin Kata is very special to me .
I was wondering about this version of Sanchin . I have seen different versions of it performed with open hand or fist . But in this video you see people doing either or . Can you talk about this ? I am curious .
But when we try to apply the ancient kata techniques , with this mindset , the things became really NONSENSE . So , I always used to believe that this methodology is completely wrong . The one way to get good understanding of traditional kata is researching these old and original methods .
Sadly , I can't get classes of this marvelous style (I'm from Brazil) . But this videos on internet can give some idea of what is the REAL TRADITIONAL Okinawan Bujutsu .
About 1920 , Dai Nippon Butokukai ordered masters to "organize" their methods to accept Karatê as an official Japanese Martial Art . But , as we can see , okinawan techniques aren't "organized" like in Koryu Bugei . Koppojutsu , Jujutsu , Aiki , Ken , Buki , and etc ... I think this happening is one of the "sources" of modern Karate problems .
Even in okinawan schools the practice is this "japanese-like" way to punching-and-blocking ...
@robertmrivers sorry, I had misunderstood you,
cheers
LeComte13 6 months ago
@LeComte13 Yes I have done Uechi Ryu. There is no problem about that. I said we DO change from open hand to closed hand in Mutudi kata. It is actually normal in any Okinawan Karate kata to change from closed to open and open to closed. Cheers.
robertmrivers 6 months ago
@robertmrivers from closed hand to open hand? so what's the problem about that?
have you ever seen Uechi Ryu Sanchin?
LeComte13 7 months ago
Also it is not a version of Sanchin, although it looks like it. It technically isn't even kata in the karate sense of the wordwhich is confusing to the karateka watching it. Everything about Mutudi practice is actually the exact opp. of sanchin practice. Imagine just doing front kicks up and down the floor...this is more like what you see here in Motobu Udundi. It is a practice of the Mutudi Kamae, not necessarily kata. Some will even change from closed to open within the same kata. Cheers.
robertmrivers 1 year ago
@sweetfly66 Its a demo... There is no reason. They are simply showing the different techniques of the system. When practicing iaido (sword) kata in demo, you'll see some doing the same kata right handed and some doing it left handed simultaneously. In kobudo, you'll see the same kata done by everyone but some are using a bo, some an eku, some even a yari or naginata. The idea behind udundi is that all of the principles are the same regardless of what weapon/ lack of weaponry is being used.
robertmrivers 1 year ago
@robertmrivers ... yes , but why would someone use one or the other .. is there a specific reason ?
sweetfly66 1 year ago
@sweetfly66 Mutudi ichi is closed hand, Mutudi ni is open hand. Otherwise they are the same kata. Some are doing one, some the other. What is being shown is the complexity of Okinawan Budo. With its diverse history of influences, even the most basic techniques can change form and become something advanced. As an example, with regard to these forms, there is hardly a single "punch" being thrown!" It is mostly tuidi and nage/ kuzushi waza.
robertmrivers 1 year ago
@robertmrivers .... I studied Uechi Ryu with Charles Earle in Providence , RI. The Sanchin Kata is very special to me .
I was wondering about this version of Sanchin . I have seen different versions of it performed with open hand or fist . But in this video you see people doing either or . Can you talk about this ? I am curious .
sweetfly66 1 year ago
... system .
But when we try to apply the ancient kata techniques , with this mindset , the things became really NONSENSE . So , I always used to believe that this methodology is completely wrong . The one way to get good understanding of traditional kata is researching these old and original methods .
Sadly , I can't get classes of this marvelous style (I'm from Brazil) . But this videos on internet can give some idea of what is the REAL TRADITIONAL Okinawan Bujutsu .
Peace .
FiasaPower 2 years ago
Thanks for the kind answer . Much appreciated .
About 1920 , Dai Nippon Butokukai ordered masters to "organize" their methods to accept Karatê as an official Japanese Martial Art . But , as we can see , okinawan techniques aren't "organized" like in Koryu Bugei . Koppojutsu , Jujutsu , Aiki , Ken , Buki , and etc ... I think this happening is one of the "sources" of modern Karate problems .
Even in okinawan schools the practice is this "japanese-like" way to punching-and-blocking ...
FiasaPower 2 years ago