Programmer vs. Business Analyst

Inspired by the Promoters vs. Bands video, I created this video, based on a real conversation, in tribute to the very special relationship that can occur between Business Analysts and Programmers.

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[Ms4dmin]

@drewmaster77 I'm a 22 year old female Java developer, and I absolutely love my job. This drewmaster guy seems like an ass. I notice that old female programmers seem pretty bitter about the sexist stuff, perhaps because of the old chauvanist men? Dunno. The only time I noticed was when someone screamed "This socket's not listening! " and I was like "oh is it a man?" I look around.... everyone is a man. No one laughs except me. Whatever. I've just gotten good at being awkward

[narutofan9999]

@Ms4dmin

Actually, no, programming wasn't invented by a Woman. And the fact that there are mostly male programmers isn't a problem with the people hiring programmers - there simply aren't that many women that actually want to become programmers. Which is somewhat related to the fact that many women do have various negative stereotypes of programming (and other engineering professions or sciences).

[narutofan9999]

@Ms4dmin

Actually, even an assembly programmer has it easy nowadays compared the 1960's - at least nowadays you have real text editors.

[Ms4dmin]

@jacf1020 what? Are you talking about the person that made this video, or one of the comments???

[Ms4dmin]

@narutofan9999 Haha, yeah, our professors love computer science story time - I can't count how many times I've heard the same story about dropping a stack of punch cards, or an infinite while loop that meant the machine had to be shut down :P

I'm not sure I would be so attracted to this field if this was the 60's - it seems more glamorous and less tedious these days, unless you are an assembly programmer.

[narutofan9999]

@Ms4dmin

You're right, but most (if not all, not sure right now) did have university degrees in related fields, so we can assume they at least really knew what they were doing.

We don't have actual history classes (well, in my university model we don't really have classes in this sense anyways, but w/e) either, but that doesn't stop out profs from talking about it though. And if I'm not mistaken, our math prof actually took history of mathematics as a course.

[Ms4dmin]

@narutofan9999 But the ENIAC programmers were basically just secretaries, right? They surely didn't relate to any of the mathematical/algorithmic concepts a modern programmer/Lovelace could. I'm sure there were a lot of other "first programmers" , like there are many multiple firsts (calculus: was it Leibniz or Newton?) It's a shame, at my school we don't really study history of computing as part of a computer science degree :/

[narutofan9999]

@Ms4dmin

Ada Lovelace is often accredited to be the first programmer, which is not incorrect in some sense. I personally dislike saying that "X is the first who ever did Y", especially in fields such as mathematics and programming, because very often many people are working simultaneously on the same things, sometimes in cooperation, but also often without even knowing of the others work, or maybe deriving their work from that of others. Though the ENIAC programmers were women...

[Ms4dmin]

@narutofan9999 True, not a lot of women want to do programming. But I disagree about who invented programming, I've always thought it was Ada Lovelace :

Fuegi J, Francis J (October–December 2003). "Lovelace & Babbage and the creation of the 1843 'notes'". Annals of the History of Computing 25 (4): 16–26. doi:10.1109/MAHC.2003.1253887

If that's not credible enough, feel free to investigate further, I suppose.

[jacf1020]

This guy is so fucking negative! go shoot yourself miserable fuck! eradicate this asshole from Youtube! I hate to be this negative myself but this guy is inspiring people not to go to college and become a fucking cheap animator like himself!

[Ms4dmin]

@hardstyle905 yeah, I didn't say I agree with it, just that that's the idea behind it. Things are pretty equal these days, at least in my part of the world. There's no reason for it.